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Wonders never cease

Larry Higgins <larryhiggins22@...>
 

Listers, and Rod Hutton in particular, since he and I have been trying to figure this one out for a while.


OK, lets start from the beginning.


Early this morning, I learned on another list that FS is offering JAWS for home users free of charge from today (apparently) until June 30. The interesting thing from my perspective was that I was planning to purchase the annual subscription today, until this opportunity suddenly presented itself. But here is the kicker.


For some reason, after installing JAWS, it occurred to me that maybe I should check and see if this installation might make some kind of a difference with Window-Eyes's browse mode, and lo and behold, Window-Eyes seems to have now Ben rehabilitated. for an example, I can now go to the BARD site using IE, and my headers are back. I can also tab backward from the login edit box and go directly to the login button, where I couldn't do that, at least not since I brought my computer home from the shop.


I have no idea what might have been the problem, other than that some how a component of Windows having to do with browse mode might either have been missing, or maybe simply corrupted. And that's why I turned to those far more technically savvy for some insight into what might be going on with this thing.


I decided to opt for the JAWS annual plan because I really need to get used to being without Window-Eyes as soon as at all possible. But to think that by installing it's former rival would have lead to its resurrection is quite baffling.


Oh well, I've got nothing else to say about it at the moment, so I will await any input from you all, if you should think that this phenomena is at all as interesting to you as it is to me <smile>.


Larry

 

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Sandra Johnson
 

Larry:

 

It might be as simple as the fact that these screen readers share some common components.  When you installed Jaws that fixed the problem of something missing that controlled the screen reading features you wanted.  I have never made that mistake when uninstalling programs because I always choose to keep any shared files but I know people who have created quite a mess by removing shared files by mistake.  I was one of the early users of GW Micro’s Vocal-Eyes and Window Eyes.  I stopped using it when I got my Windows 10 computer because my version was too old for Win10.  I have found NVDA, Jaws and even Narrator to work just fine.    

 

Sandra Johnson

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Larry Higgins
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:56 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Wonders never sease

 

Listers, and Rod Hutton in particular, since he and I have been trying

to figure this one out for a while.

 

 

OK, lets start from the beginning.

 

 

Early this morning, I learned on another list that FS is offering JAWS

for home users free of charge from today (apparently) until June 30. The

interesting thing from my perspective was that I was planning to

purchase the annual subscription today, until this opportunity suddenly

presented itself. But here is the kicker.

 

 

For some reason, after installing JAWS, it occurred to me that maybe I

should check and see if this installation might make some kind of a

difference with Window-Eyes's browse mode, and lo and behold,

Window-Eyes seems to have now Ben rehabilitated. for an example, I can

now go to the BARD site using IE, and my headers are back. I can also

tab backward from the login edit box and go directly to the login

button, where I couldn't do that, at least not since I brought my

computer home from the shop.

 

 

I have no idea what might have been the problem, other than that some

how a component of Windows having to do with browse mode might either

have been missing, or maybe simply corrupted. And that's why I turned to

those far more technically savvy for some insight into what might be

going on with this thing.

 

 

I decided to opt for the JAWS annual plan because I really need to get

used to being without Window-Eyes as soon as at all possible. But to

think that by installing it's former rival would have lead to its

resurrection is quite baffling.

 

 

Oh well, I've got nothing else to say about it at the moment, so I will

await any input from you all, if you should think that this phenomena is

at all as interesting to you as it is to me <smile>.

 

 

Larry

 

 

 

 

 

 

Larry Higgins
 

Sandra, I think you might be on to something as far as the files and components are concerned. It is possible that one or more of the files necessary to making browse mode work might be found in either system32, or one of the common file folders under one of the program files folders.


Don't want to get over my skis in diagnosing this thing, but I think that might at least be an educated guess.


I'll just say, it is good to still be able to     work with the screen reader that I am familiar with while at the same time learning to use another.


 



On 3/24/2020 3:17 PM, Sandra Johnson wrote:

Larry:

 

It might be as simple as the fact that these screen readers share some common components.  When you installed Jaws that fixed the problem of something missing that controlled the screen reading features you wanted.  I have never made that mistake when uninstalling programs because I always choose to keep any shared files but I know people who have created quite a mess by removing shared files by mistake.  I was one of the early users of GW Micro’s Vocal-Eyes and Window Eyes.  I stopped using it when I got my Windows 10 computer because my version was too old for Win10.  I have found NVDA, Jaws and even Narrator to work just fine.    

 

Sandra Johnson

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Larry Higgins
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:56 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Wonders never sease

 

Listers, and Rod Hutton in particular, since he and I have been trying

to figure this one out for a while.

 

 

OK, lets start from the beginning.

 

 

Early this morning, I learned on another list that FS is offering JAWS

for home users free of charge from today (apparently) until June 30. The

interesting thing from my perspective was that I was planning to

purchase the annual subscription today, until this opportunity suddenly

presented itself. But here is the kicker.

 

 

For some reason, after installing JAWS, it occurred to me that maybe I

should check and see if this installation might make some kind of a

difference with Window-Eyes's browse mode, and lo and behold,

Window-Eyes seems to have now Ben rehabilitated. for an example, I can

now go to the BARD site using IE, and my headers are back. I can also

tab backward from the login edit box and go directly to the login

button, where I couldn't do that, at least not since I brought my

computer home from the shop.

 

 

I have no idea what might have been the problem, other than that some

how a component of Windows having to do with browse mode might either

have been missing, or maybe simply corrupted. And that's why I turned to

those far more technically savvy for some insight into what might be

going on with this thing.

 

 

I decided to opt for the JAWS annual plan because I really need to get

used to being without Window-Eyes as soon as at all possible. But to

think that by installing it's former rival would have lead to its

resurrection is quite baffling.

 

 

Oh well, I've got nothing else to say about it at the moment, so I will

await any input from you all, if you should think that this phenomena is

at all as interesting to you as it is to me <smile>.

 

 

Larry