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Your head list representative is exhausted: reply placement, occupational burnout #AdminNotice


 

Dear Win10 family,

Before I begin, this is to notify you that the member in question and I had a discussion about the below incident, and various group notices were edited to point out that this forum does not have a set rule on posting style and reply placement (and I apologize for not addressing this sooner). As such, the following notice is meant for other members:

 

I know that we need a break and a restful weekend, but looks like I need to transform into a volcano some of you may have heard of:

 

On October 21, I wrote an admin notice reminding family members that we do not care about posting style. Further, I noted that small things can have an impact on forum reputation.

 

Although the previous post dealt with including past responses and such, the latest incident deals with top posting, something that was brought up before. Just like last time, it doesn’t matter where the reply goes as long as the content is helpful to people, both inside and outside this forum cluster. As I noted, I understand that the tendency to top post is rooted in past experiences on various forums, but I also noted that this is not universal.

 

Part of the reason why I have become a volcano today is the fact that this is the second admin notice about posting style in a span of three days, something that was never heard of on this forum. It would be considered normal if we get an admin notice once a while (say, about once every month or two), typically on different topics or to announce what feature update era we are in (we’re in 20H2 era, by the way). But an admin notice about something that can determine our long-term reputation? A plea about something that’s a personal choice for individual members? Two of these in a span of a week? I’m disappointed and ashamed.

 

Another reason is that lately I’m beginning to feel a slow burnout. Even last night when I kept thinking about my response earlier this week and recent forum climate, I kept asking myself, “is this what people call occupational burnout?” I’m feeling exhausted, more so recently. I’m beginning to feel a disconnect from my duty as your head list representative. Sure, COVID-19 climate and the resulting mental exhaustion might be contributing to this, perhaps academics, or perhaps something else. Even writing this admin notice is making me feel uncomfortable and shaky, something I’m sure folks who are or were heads of various forums can testify.

 

Many of you who know me know that I do not curse often and not show anger, knowing that I am considered an influencer and thus choose my words carefully. But folks also know that I can become angry if anything to do with long-term group reputation is on the line. As it is, the long-term reputation of the Win10 forum is on the line – one of the reasons people join us is due to extensive, informative content, not to be entertained by posting style debates and resulting admin notices.

 

Let us not make the Win10 forum uncomfortable to people inside and outside. Let us not forget that everyone is watching our posts and behavior. Let us not ruin the reputation of this forum over small things. Let us not forget why we are united, share our expertise, and serve the larger community. I am angry and feeling a slow burnout, but I kindly implore (desperately beg) you: the fate of Win10 Forum for Screen Reader Users depends not on admin notices or Windows 10 feature updates, but on content, attitudes, and behavior.

 

I rarely make requests that are deeply personal in a public setting, but please help me overcome burnout.

Cheers,

Joseph


 

yes.
the fait of this forum depends on all of us.
by us i mean we as a comunity can make or brake this forum.
so lets keep it going without any problems.

On 10/24/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Win10 family,

Before I begin, this is to notify you that the member in question and I had
a discussion about the below incident, and various group notices were
edited
to point out that this forum does not have a set rule on posting style and
reply placement (and I apologize for not addressing this sooner). As such,
the following notice is meant for other members:



I know that we need a break and a restful weekend, but looks like I need to
transform into a volcano some of you may have heard of:



On October 21, I wrote an admin notice reminding family members that we do
not care about posting style. Further, I noted that small things can have
an
impact on forum reputation.



Although the previous post dealt with including past responses and such,
the
latest incident deals with top posting, something that was brought up
before. Just like last time, it doesn't matter where the reply goes as long
as the content is helpful to people, both inside and outside this forum
cluster. As I noted, I understand that the tendency to top post is rooted
in
past experiences on various forums, but I also noted that this is not
universal.



Part of the reason why I have become a volcano today is the fact that this
is the second admin notice about posting style in a span of three days,
something that was never heard of on this forum. It would be considered
normal if we get an admin notice once a while (say, about once every month
or two), typically on different topics or to announce what feature update
era we are in (we're in 20H2 era, by the way). But an admin notice about
something that can determine our long-term reputation? A plea about
something that's a personal choice for individual members? Two of these in
a
span of a week? I'm disappointed and ashamed.



Another reason is that lately I'm beginning to feel a slow burnout. Even
last night when I kept thinking about my response earlier this week and
recent forum climate, I kept asking myself, "is this what people call
occupational burnout?" I'm feeling exhausted, more so recently. I'm
beginning to feel a disconnect from my duty as your head list
representative. Sure, COVID-19 climate and the resulting mental exhaustion
might be contributing to this, perhaps academics, or perhaps something
else.
Even writing this admin notice is making me feel uncomfortable and shaky,
something I'm sure folks who are or were heads of various forums can
testify.



Many of you who know me know that I do not curse often and not show anger,
knowing that I am considered an influencer and thus choose my words
carefully. But folks also know that I can become angry if anything to do
with long-term group reputation is on the line. As it is, the long-term
reputation of the Win10 forum is on the line - one of the reasons people
join us is due to extensive, informative content, not to be entertained by
posting style debates and resulting admin notices.



Let us not make the Win10 forum uncomfortable to people inside and outside.
Let us not forget that everyone is watching our posts and behavior. Let us
not ruin the reputation of this forum over small things. Let us not forget
why we are united, share our expertise, and serve the larger community. I
am
angry and feeling a slow burnout, but I kindly implore (desperately beg)
you: the fate of Win10 Forum for Screen Reader Users depends not on admin
notices or Windows 10 feature updates, but on content, attitudes, and
behavior.



I rarely make requests that are deeply personal in a public setting, but
please help me overcome burnout.

Cheers,

Joseph






--
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austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com
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Stephanie
 

I'm sorry you are feeling this way. Perhaps a second moderator would help if you don't have one already

Steph

On 25 Oct 2020, at 6:03 pm, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:

yes.
the fait of this forum depends on all of us.
by us i mean we as a comunity can make or brake this forum.
so lets keep it going without any problems.

On 10/24/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Win10 family,

Before I begin, this is to notify you that the member in question and I had
a discussion about the below incident, and various group notices were
edited
to point out that this forum does not have a set rule on posting style and
reply placement (and I apologize for not addressing this sooner). As such,
the following notice is meant for other members:



I know that we need a break and a restful weekend, but looks like I need to
transform into a volcano some of you may have heard of:



On October 21, I wrote an admin notice reminding family members that we do
not care about posting style. Further, I noted that small things can have
an
impact on forum reputation.



Although the previous post dealt with including past responses and such,
the
latest incident deals with top posting, something that was brought up
before. Just like last time, it doesn't matter where the reply goes as long
as the content is helpful to people, both inside and outside this forum
cluster. As I noted, I understand that the tendency to top post is rooted
in
past experiences on various forums, but I also noted that this is not
universal.



Part of the reason why I have become a volcano today is the fact that this
is the second admin notice about posting style in a span of three days,
something that was never heard of on this forum. It would be considered
normal if we get an admin notice once a while (say, about once every month
or two), typically on different topics or to announce what feature update
era we are in (we're in 20H2 era, by the way). But an admin notice about
something that can determine our long-term reputation? A plea about
something that's a personal choice for individual members? Two of these in
a
span of a week? I'm disappointed and ashamed.



Another reason is that lately I'm beginning to feel a slow burnout. Even
last night when I kept thinking about my response earlier this week and
recent forum climate, I kept asking myself, "is this what people call
occupational burnout?" I'm feeling exhausted, more so recently. I'm
beginning to feel a disconnect from my duty as your head list
representative. Sure, COVID-19 climate and the resulting mental exhaustion
might be contributing to this, perhaps academics, or perhaps something
else.
Even writing this admin notice is making me feel uncomfortable and shaky,
something I'm sure folks who are or were heads of various forums can
testify.



Many of you who know me know that I do not curse often and not show anger,
knowing that I am considered an influencer and thus choose my words
carefully. But folks also know that I can become angry if anything to do
with long-term group reputation is on the line. As it is, the long-term
reputation of the Win10 forum is on the line - one of the reasons people
join us is due to extensive, informative content, not to be entertained by
posting style debates and resulting admin notices.



Let us not make the Win10 forum uncomfortable to people inside and outside.
Let us not forget that everyone is watching our posts and behavior. Let us
not ruin the reputation of this forum over small things. Let us not forget
why we are united, share our expertise, and serve the larger community. I
am
angry and feeling a slow burnout, but I kindly implore (desperately beg)
you: the fate of Win10 Forum for Screen Reader Users depends not on admin
notices or Windows 10 feature updates, but on content, attitudes, and
behavior.



I rarely make requests that are deeply personal in a public setting, but
please help me overcome burnout.

Cheers,

Joseph







--
search for me on facebook, google+, orkut..
austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com
follow me on twitter.
austinmpinto
contact me on skype.
austin.pinto3





 

Hi,
We do - two moderators, one area specialist.
I think part of the reason I'm keep getting exhausted may have to do with multiple things happening at once: pandemic-induced stress (all of us are affected by it to varying degrees), school (some of us are students in different levels), and perhaps a feeling that people are not listening as usual; I take direct responsibility on the last one, as I'm to blame for not being as outspoken as I should be.
I think I will need to do two things:
1. Ask someone to take care of this list while I take a really needed break (even though I took a break from NVDA world a few months ago, I didn't take a truly restful break from managing this forum).
2. Schedule leadership election in 2021 - originally I was planning to retire this year but the pandemic struck, and I felt it would be best to provide guidance during this time for stability reasons. Now that important life events are approaching, I feel it's time to pass the baton to the next group of leaders.
Thanks for checking in on me.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 12:27 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Your head list representative is exhausted: reply placement, occupational burnout #AdminNotice

I'm sorry you are feeling this way. Perhaps a second moderator would help if you don't have one already

Steph

On 25 Oct 2020, at 6:03 pm, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:

yes.
the fait of this forum depends on all of us.
by us i mean we as a comunity can make or brake this forum.
so lets keep it going without any problems.

On 10/24/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Win10 family,

Before I begin, this is to notify you that the member in question and
I had a discussion about the below incident, and various group
notices were edited to point out that this forum does not have a set
rule on posting style and reply placement (and I apologize for not
addressing this sooner). As such, the following notice is meant for
other members:



I know that we need a break and a restful weekend, but looks like I
need to transform into a volcano some of you may have heard of:



On October 21, I wrote an admin notice reminding family members that
we do not care about posting style. Further, I noted that small
things can have an impact on forum reputation.



Although the previous post dealt with including past responses and
such, the latest incident deals with top posting, something that was
brought up before. Just like last time, it doesn't matter where the
reply goes as long as the content is helpful to people, both inside
and outside this forum cluster. As I noted, I understand that the
tendency to top post is rooted in past experiences on various forums,
but I also noted that this is not universal.



Part of the reason why I have become a volcano today is the fact that
this is the second admin notice about posting style in a span of
three days, something that was never heard of on this forum. It would
be considered normal if we get an admin notice once a while (say,
about once every month or two), typically on different topics or to
announce what feature update era we are in (we're in 20H2 era, by the
way). But an admin notice about something that can determine our
long-term reputation? A plea about something that's a personal choice
for individual members? Two of these in a span of a week? I'm
disappointed and ashamed.



Another reason is that lately I'm beginning to feel a slow burnout.
Even last night when I kept thinking about my response earlier this
week and recent forum climate, I kept asking myself, "is this what
people call occupational burnout?" I'm feeling exhausted, more so
recently. I'm beginning to feel a disconnect from my duty as your
head list representative. Sure, COVID-19 climate and the resulting
mental exhaustion might be contributing to this, perhaps academics,
or perhaps something else.
Even writing this admin notice is making me feel uncomfortable and
shaky, something I'm sure folks who are or were heads of various
forums can testify.



Many of you who know me know that I do not curse often and not show
anger, knowing that I am considered an influencer and thus choose my
words carefully. But folks also know that I can become angry if
anything to do with long-term group reputation is on the line. As it
is, the long-term reputation of the Win10 forum is on the line - one
of the reasons people join us is due to extensive, informative
content, not to be entertained by posting style debates and resulting admin notices.



Let us not make the Win10 forum uncomfortable to people inside and outside.
Let us not forget that everyone is watching our posts and behavior.
Let us not ruin the reputation of this forum over small things. Let
us not forget why we are united, share our expertise, and serve the
larger community. I am angry and feeling a slow burnout, but I kindly
implore (desperately beg)
you: the fate of Win10 Forum for Screen Reader Users depends not on
admin notices or Windows 10 feature updates, but on content,
attitudes, and behavior.



I rarely make requests that are deeply personal in a public setting,
but please help me overcome burnout.

Cheers,

Joseph







--
search for me on facebook, google+, orkut..
austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com
follow me on twitter.
austinmpinto
contact me on skype.
austin.pinto3