Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

Chris.

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

Just as there are updates to Jaws, just to be clear, and I’m not an NVDA user, but I doubt a 3-year old NVDA version would work perfectly well with the latest Windows 10 update, either.

I think so. But if there are issues then there will be an update to nvda.

On May 22, 2020 12:35:04 PM "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> wrote:

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,

Do you know, when should be released?

The end of May is next week.

I think so. But if there are issues then there will be an update to nvda.

On May 22, 2020 12:35:04 PM "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> wrote:

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

 

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,

Unless a really serious issue shows up, Version 2004 may (not will) go live next week (I say “may go live” because even some insightful sources are unsure as to when exactly 2004 will show up). Note that “next week” is general availability for early adopters – the general public will get it when their machines are deemed ready.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,

Do you know, when should be released?

The end of May is next week.

I think so. But if there are issues then there will be an update to nvda.

On May 22, 2020 12:35:04 PM "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> wrote:

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

 

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

Just as there are updates to Jaws, just to be clear, and I’m not an NVDA user, but I doubt a 3-year old NVDA version would work perfectly well with the latest Windows 10 update, either.

I was talking about  the latest nvda update.i would  think that  the  latest Update to NVDA would work with the latest version of windows 10.that Is  all I was saying. 

Just as there are updates to Jaws, just to be clear, and I’m not an NVDA user, but I doubt a 3-year old NVDA version would work perfectly well with the latest Windows 10 update, either.

Hi,

As a follow-up: I’m intentionally being vague here. The first reason is that I myself don’t know exactly when it’ll show up. The second reason is to remind everyone of a promise I made a few years ago: I will not answer questions about feature update release dates or any variation of the question, “when will I get such and such update”. For more than half a decade, the only constant thing was unpredictability.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 10:39 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [Special] Re: [win10] Version 2004 and JAWS: JAWS 2019 or later is required #JAWS #WinTen2004 #ADVISORY

 

Hi,

Unless a really serious issue shows up, Version 2004 may (not will) go live next week (I say “may go live” because even some insightful sources are unsure as to when exactly 2004 will show up). Note that “next week” is general availability for early adopters – the general public will get it when their machines are deemed ready.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marek Durila
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 10:29 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io; Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 2004 and JAWS: JAWS 2019 or later is required #JAWS #WinTen2004 #ADVISORY

 

Hi,

Do you know, when should be released?

The end of May is next week.

 

Dne 23.05.2020 v 6:58 g melconian napsal(a):

I think so. But if there are issues then there will be an update to nvda.

On May 22, 2020 12:35:04 PM "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> wrote:

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

 

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph