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It is here, it is here: Windows 10 Version 1903/May 2019 Update/build 18362 is here at last #branchprogression #WinTenOld


 

Hi all,

 

It is here, it is here: Windows 10 Version 1903/may 2019 Update/build 18362 is here. Please see the following blog post for details:

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/05/21/how-to-get-the-windows-10-may-2019-update/#BoPojohB5VHokBmM.97

 

A few reminders:

  1. Can I upgrade today: no matter which shape or form this question takes, the forum-wide advice is, and it has always been, “please wait until it is offered to you”.
  2. When “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1903” shows up on Widows Update, please make sure you’re using latest drivers, hardware is compatible, and you’ve got supported screen reader releases.
  3. The last regular cumulative update notice for Version 1809 will be sent in July.

 

And with that, let us enter Version 1903 era!

Cheers,

Joseph


 

I will reiterate Joseph's advice with regard to any Feature Update:   Wait until it's offered to you via Windows Update.

However, I know that many will not follow that advice no matter how often it's been offered, and in an effort to preclude the, "How do I get it now?," flood I'm going to give the brief "how to" which I hope will stop the flood:

Option 1:   Go to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page and activate the Update Now button (which triggers the Update Assistant, which will lead you through the Feature Update).

Option 2.   On the same page, download the Media Creation Tool via the Download Tool Now button, and use same to create a bootable USB drive to install the Feature Update.  Use any one of the following sets of instructions.  Doing a Feature Update install takes precisely the same steps, but you're actually doing an update rather than an install-over repair install:

Non-Destructive Repair of Windows 10 - Answers to commonly asked questions


Doing an In-place "Upgrade" to Reinstall Windows 10 Keeping Apps/Programs and User Files


How to: Perform a Repair Upgrade Using the Windows 10 ISO file

Narrator should be able to be kicked off very shortly into the update process (CTRL+WinKey+Enter).  This has been the case for some time now.
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what are the new features in narrator in this update, and are there new mobile 1 cor voices in this update as well? If so what are  they.


On Tue, May 21, 2019, 13:41 Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

It is here, it is here: Windows 10 Version 1903/may 2019 Update/build 18362 is here. Please see the following blog post for details:

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/05/21/how-to-get-the-windows-10-may-2019-update/#BoPojohB5VHokBmM.97

 

A few reminders:

  1. Can I upgrade today: no matter which shape or form this question takes, the forum-wide advice is, and it has always been, “please wait until it is offered to you”.
  2. When “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1903” shows up on Widows Update, please make sure you’re using latest drivers, hardware is compatible, and you’ve got supported screen reader releases.
  3. The last regular cumulative update notice for Version 1809 will be sent in July.

 

And with that, let us enter Version 1903 era!

Cheers,

Joseph


 

Joseph,
When "Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1903" shows up on Widows Update, please make sure you're using latest drivers, hardware is compatible, and you've got supported screen reader releases.
How can I make sure that I'm with latest drivers? And how can I make sure that my hardware is compatible?
I mean, if it shows up for me, I'd think it's compatible, but then...... We are talking about Microsoft.

Cheers,
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Hmmm as long as you have the latest drivers from your intel drive update or a reasonably updated amd driver from april thats probably fine.

Just check with your system manufacturer, sadly for me, some of the drivers say windows 1809, however I do know for some of them dates or just version numbers have changed so they will probably work.

I know the latest amd drivers for may lock windows 1809, so I am hoping that these are the ones for the system I am upgrading to.

If ms says it will work then it will at least boot up which is what you want at this stage.

Once it starts aditional updates may be available to you at that time.



On 22/05/2019 8:14 AM, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Joseph,
When "Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1903" shows up on Widows Update, please make sure you're using latest drivers, hardware is compatible, and you've got supported screen reader releases.
How can I make sure that I'm with latest drivers? And how can I make sure that my hardware is compatible?
I mean, if it shows up for me, I'd think it's compatible, but then...... We are talking about Microsoft.

Cheers,
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Shaun,
Just check with your system manufacturer
Well this laptop is about 2 or 3 years now. Even so, will I be able to get support from them? I mean, through a phone line and such?

Cheers,
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On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 04:17 PM, Marcio wrote:
How can I make sure that I'm with latest drivers? And how can I make sure that my hardware is compatible?
As a general rule, and in this order, this is how to check whether your drivers are up to date (and this presumes you've already looked in Device Manager for the version numbers of the ones you currently have installed):

1.  Go to the OEM support pages for your machine's make and model.  Get to the downloads and drivers page.  Check under the sections/categories you're concerned about.

2.  If you have a custom build and/or know the actual hardware involved (e.g., I have an Intel 3165 wireless adapter), then you can go to the OEM support pages for that maker and piece of hardware to download either the latest driver or driver updater software.  I hasten to add that manufacturer specific driver monitoring and updating software is not, in any way, to be confused with third party "driver updater" programs which should be avoided like the plague.

Now that the above has been said, given how infrequently issues crop up these days compared to the early days of Windows 10, I generally presume all will be OK and proceed accordingly.  You can always get the newer drivers you need if an issue crops up (though if that issue is with your sound card it can get complicated).

Windows 10's own installer has been doing hardware checking for a very long time now.  Like anything, it may occasionally screw up, but I have an old ASUS laptop that will not update to Windows 10 from Windows 7 because certain drivers are not available, and the update itself identifies this at the very early stages.  I cannot believe that this functionality is not built into the installer as far as checking for many different potential hardware incompatibility issues.
 
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Brian,
and this presumes you've already looked in Device Manager for the version numbers of the ones you currently have installed
Actually, looking there always give me the same result, telling me that "all drivers are up to date". So this means that I'm all set with it?

1.?? Go to the OEM support pages for your machine's make and model.?? Get to the downloads and drivers page.?? Check under the sections/categories you're concerned about.

2.?? If you have a custom build and/or know the actual hardware involved (e.g., I have an Intel 3165 wireless adapter), then you can go to the OEM support pages for that maker and piece of hardware to download either the latest driver or driver updater software.
See, I have a Dell laptop. So I would have to go to the Dell's website?
I've looked there a few times as well and that page annoys the hell out of me - I mean, I really can't get the hang of it. For downloading something there I take the time that I'd take for downloading 3 or 4 programs in differents, easier to use webpages. So I hope you'll tell me that the Device Manager is enough to go ahead.

Cheers,
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Well their website may have updated drivers, but it may not, in which case either windows will work or it won't.

The older stuff works well, as for newer stuff same to.

I am still waiting for this update to install, its 99%, I was hoping it would be past first reboot stage by now but its not.

So I am continuing to do things because II need to get them done but yeah its taking a while.



On 22/05/2019 8:54 AM, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Shaun,
Just check with your system manufacturer
Well this laptop is about 2 or 3 years now. Even so, will I be able to get support from them? I mean, through a phone line and such?

Cheers,
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Probably.

I had only one issue once where my hp updater didn't give me everything I needed which caused a few lets not boot till a usb hub is in there and not have a display scenarios but once I started manually checking and spent half an hour updating drivers, bios and firmware it worked again as expected.



On 22/05/2019 9:38 AM, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Brian,
and this presumes you've already looked in Device Manager for the version numbers of the ones you currently have installed
Actually, looking there always give me the same result, telling me that "all drivers are up to date". So this means that I'm all set with it?

1.?? Go to the OEM support pages for your machine's make and model.?? Get to the downloads and drivers page.?? Check under the sections/categories you're concerned about.

2.?? If you have a custom build and/or know the actual hardware involved (e.g., I have an Intel 3165 wireless adapter), then you can go to the OEM support pages for that maker and piece of hardware to download either the latest driver or driver updater software.
See, I have a Dell laptop. So I would have to go to the Dell's website?
I've looked there a few times as well and that page annoys the hell out of me - I mean, I really can't get the hang of it. For downloading something there I take the time that I'd take for downloading 3 or 4 programs in differents, easier to use webpages. So I hope you'll tell me that the Device Manager is enough to go ahead.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 05:41 PM, Marcio wrote:
Actually, looking there always give me the same result, telling me that "all drivers are up to date". So this means that I'm all set with it?
Not necessarily.  What many do not understand is that Microsoft can only declare "up to date" based upon what has been submitted to it by OEMs for inclusion in its massive driver library.  Many of those OEMs simply don't submit in a timely manner and some don't submit at all.

You have to check what version number is shown for the driver in device manager, then check what your OEM's support site shows as its latest version and see if the two numbers match.

In any case, as I said earlier, if you have a machine that originated with a Windows 8.1 or 10 OS, this is not likely to be a necessary step.
 
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however from what i have seen laptop websites or a prebuilt desktop
website always has older drivers its best to install the Intel driver
assistant this will give you updates for Intel drivers only.
for other things you need to know what your wifi card is and what the
sound card is and download the latest driver from the card maker and
not from any 3rd party site.
once you have your internet and sound working everything can be made to work.
also what i have seen is that after you install windows 10 go to
settings> update and security and then windows update and click on
change advanced options and check the box give me updates for other
microsoft products.
and then go to windows updates and check for updates and it will
update all missing drivers.
in the windows 7 and older days it was said not to take drivers from
microsoft but its not a problem now as the drivers submited to
microsoft by oems go to a whql certification process.

On 5/22/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 05:41 PM, Marcio wrote:


Actually, looking there always give me the same result, telling me that
"all drivers are up to date". So this means that I'm all set with it?
Not necessarily.  What many do not understand is that Microsoft can only
declare "up to date" based upon what has been submitted to it by OEMs for
inclusion in its massive driver library.  Many of those OEMs simply don't
submit in a timely manner and some don't submit at all.

You have to check what version number is shown for the driver in device
manager, then check what your OEM's support site shows as its latest version
and see if the two numbers match.

In any case, as I said earlier, if you have a machine that originated with a
Windows 8.1 or 10 OS, this is not likely to be a necessary step.

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everything about nothing.*

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Austin and Brian,
Thanks for the advices, guys. I'll take all of this into account :)

It's nice to have a forum like this one where we can ask about these things. Thanks again.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Well to be honest after I installed the latest, I did find some interesting developments.

Firstly microsoft will pull all my languages, optionals, etc down by itself without me having to bother with them.

One thing I had to do was reinstall my 1809 realtech drivers from hp, and the recommended amd controler drivers 2019.4.1, the may drivers flatly refused to work and crashed as they have been, they are reguarded as optional though so not a problem.

Everything I set is where it should be except that due to winamp and stupid msc files I had  to reassociate them with their propper program and doodle about with that fix but its all ok.

One thing I did notice right away, is that sadly ribbon disabler generates an exception when run, and the winaero makers are using an image for their email address, so if anyone knows what that is that would be good.

I also don't care for the way downloads are displayed with this history pain.

When windows first started, edge came up and the computer didn't work right so I had to restart it again.

Other than that, I have managed to reactivate my synths and everything looks ok.

On 22/05/2019 4:25 PM, Austin Pinto wrote:
however from what i have seen laptop websites or a prebuilt desktop
website always has older drivers its best to install the Intel driver
assistant this will give you updates for Intel drivers only.
for other things you need to know what your wifi card is and what the
sound card is and download the latest driver from the card maker and
not from any 3rd party site.
once you have your internet and sound working everything can be made to work.
also what i have seen is that after you install windows 10 go to
settings> update and security and then windows update and click on
change advanced options and check the box give me updates for other
microsoft products.
and then go to windows updates and check for updates and it will
update all missing drivers.
in the windows 7 and older days it was said not to take drivers from
microsoft but its not a problem now as the drivers submited to
microsoft by oems go to a whql certification process.

On 5/22/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 05:41 PM, Marcio wrote:

Actually, looking there always give me the same result, telling me that
"all drivers are up to date". So this means that I'm all set with it?
Not necessarily.  What many do not understand is that Microsoft can only
declare "up to date" based upon what has been submitted to it by OEMs for
inclusion in its massive driver library.  Many of those OEMs simply don't
submit in a timely manner and some don't submit at all.

You have to check what version number is shown for the driver in device
manager, then check what your OEM's support site shows as its latest version
and see if the two numbers match.

In any case, as I said earlier, if you have a machine that originated with a
Windows 8.1 or 10 OS, this is not likely to be a necessary step.

--

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*The specialist knows more and more about less and less and finally knows
everything about nothing.*

*~* Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)




 

Shaun,
One thing I had to do was reinstall my 1809 realtech drivers from hp, and the recommended amd controler drivers 2019.4.1, the may drivers flatly refused to work and crashed as they have been, they are reguarded as optional though so not a problem.
I've backuped the Realtek Audio Driver version that I'm using right now and that looks like the latest for my machine, it works well by the way.
Only don't know if I need to backup other drivers. Do I need to do it?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 02:58 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
winaero makers are using an image for their email address
And they use one that isn't all that great, either.   My first presumption is that the contact address for the Winaero folks is hlo860@....   If it's not that, then it's hb860@....   It's really impossible to know for certain whether that's meant to be two letters, lower case L and O, or a lower case B.
 
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My jaws

My wife reads it as hb860@...

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 6:44 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] It is here, it is here: Windows 10 Version 1903/May 2019 Update/build 18362 is here at last #BranchProgression #WinTen1903

 

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 02:58 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

winaero makers are using an image for their email address

And they use one that isn't all that great, either.   My first presumption is that the contact address for the Winaero folks is hlo860@....   If it's not that, then it's hb860@....   It's really impossible to know for certain whether that's meant to be two letters, lower case L and O, or a lower case B.
 
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             ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


 

Em 22/05/2019 10:43, Brian Vogel disse:
My first presumption is that the contact address for the Winaero folks is hlo860@.... If it's not that, then it's hb860@.... It's really impossible to know for certain whether that's meant to be two letters, lower case L and O, or a lower case B.
It is hb860@...
See: https://twitter.com/winreview/status/234972820562644992

Cheers,
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Peter Russillo
 

Hi all, I got the update for Windows 10 version 1903 successfully installed; however, what's with Microsoft Edge?  Wasn't it supposed to work better with screen readers as Google Chrome and IE do now?  When I open it I get a whole page of different tips; can anyone test this and tell me if Edge is really screen reader ready yet?  Thanks


Peter.

On 5/22/2019 2:58 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest after I installed the latest, I did find some interesting developments.

Firstly microsoft will pull all my languages, optionals, etc down by itself without me having to bother with them.

One thing I had to do was reinstall my 1809 realtech drivers from hp, and the recommended amd controler drivers 2019.4.1, the may drivers flatly refused to work and crashed as they have been, they are reguarded as optional though so not a problem.

Everything I set is where it should be except that due to winamp and stupid msc files I had  to reassociate them with their propper program and doodle about with that fix but its all ok.

One thing I did notice right away, is that sadly ribbon disabler generates an exception when run, and the winaero makers are using an image for their email address, so if anyone knows what that is that would be good.

I also don't care for the way downloads are displayed with this history pain.

When windows first started, edge came up and the computer didn't work right so I had to restart it again.

Other than that, I have managed to reactivate my synths and everything looks ok.



On 22/05/2019 4:25 PM, Austin Pinto wrote:
however from what i have seen laptop websites or a prebuilt desktop
website always has older drivers its best to install the Intel driver
assistant this will give you updates for Intel drivers only.
for other things you need to know what your wifi card is and what the
sound card is and download the latest driver from the card maker and
not from any 3rd party site.
once you have your internet and sound working everything can be made to work.
also what i have seen is that after you install windows 10 go to
settings> update and security and then windows update and click on
change advanced options and check the box give me updates for other
microsoft products.
and then go to windows updates and check for updates and it will
update all missing drivers.
in the windows 7 and older days it was said not to take drivers from
microsoft but its not a problem now as the drivers submited to
microsoft by oems go to a whql certification process.

On 5/22/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 05:41 PM, Marcio wrote:

Actually, looking there always give me the same result, telling me that
"all drivers are up to date". So this means that I'm all set with it?
Not necessarily.  What many do not understand is that Microsoft can only
declare "up to date" based upon what has been submitted to it by OEMs for
inclusion in its massive driver library.  Many of those OEMs simply don't
submit in a timely manner and some don't submit at all.

You have to check what version number is shown for the driver in device
manager, then check what your OEM's support site shows as its latest version
and see if the two numbers match.

In any case, as I said earlier, if you have a machine that originated with a
Windows 8.1 or 10 OS, this is not likely to be a necessary step.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*The specialist knows more and more about less and less and finally knows
everything about nothing.*

*~* Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)




 

hi Peter.
first of all a request to all.
please if you have any problems with 1903 list the version of your
screen reader.
regarding edge you need to have the latest version of your screen
reader installed.
and if you use nvda download windows 10 essentials from nvda addons website.
you can close the tips page and then reopen edge and it should work properly.

On 5/22/19, Peter Russillo <plrussillo@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi all, I got the update for Windows 10 version 1903 successfully
installed; however, what's with Microsoft Edge?  Wasn't it supposed to
work better with screen readers as Google Chrome and IE do now?  When I
open it I get a whole page of different tips; can anyone test this and
tell me if Edge is really screen reader ready yet?  Thanks


Peter.

On 5/22/2019 2:58 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest after I installed the latest, I did find some
interesting developments.

Firstly microsoft will pull all my languages, optionals, etc down by
itself without me having to bother with them.

One thing I had to do was reinstall my 1809 realtech drivers from hp,
and the recommended amd controler drivers 2019.4.1, the may drivers
flatly refused to work and crashed as they have been, they are
reguarded as optional though so not a problem.

Everything I set is where it should be except that due to winamp and
stupid msc files I had  to reassociate them with their propper program
and doodle about with that fix but its all ok.

One thing I did notice right away, is that sadly ribbon disabler
generates an exception when run, and the winaero makers are using an
image for their email address, so if anyone knows what that is that
would be good.

I also don't care for the way downloads are displayed with this
history pain.

When windows first started, edge came up and the computer didn't work
right so I had to restart it again.

Other than that, I have managed to reactivate my synths and everything
looks ok.



On 22/05/2019 4:25 PM, Austin Pinto wrote:
however from what i have seen laptop websites or a prebuilt desktop
website always has older drivers its best to install the Intel driver
assistant this will give you updates for Intel drivers only.
for other things you need to know what your wifi card is and what the
sound card is and download the latest driver from the card maker and
not from any 3rd party site.
once you have your internet and sound working everything can be made
to work.
also what i have seen is that after you install windows 10 go to
settings> update and security and then windows update and click on
change advanced options and check the box give me updates for other
microsoft products.
and then go to windows updates and check for updates and it will
update all missing drivers.
in the windows 7 and older days it was said not to take drivers from
microsoft but its not a problem now as the drivers submited to
microsoft by oems go to a whql certification process.

On 5/22/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 05:41 PM, Marcio wrote:

Actually, looking there always give me the same result, telling me
that
"all drivers are up to date". So this means that I'm all set with it?
Not necessarily.  What many do not understand is that Microsoft can
only
declare "up to date" based upon what has been submitted to it by
OEMs for
inclusion in its massive driver library.  Many of those OEMs simply
don't
submit in a timely manner and some don't submit at all.

You have to check what version number is shown for the driver in device
manager, then check what your OEM's support site shows as its latest
version
and see if the two numbers match.

In any case, as I said earlier, if you have a machine that
originated with a
Windows 8.1 or 10 OS, this is not likely to be a necessary step.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*The specialist knows more and more about less and less and finally
knows
everything about nothing.*

*~* Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)






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