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Re: How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

DJ <grouloc@...>
 

Will a user Be able to set the volume for jaws?
                      

On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

Go to Settings (Windows+I)/System/Sound/App volume and device preferences. The first set of controls is master volume and overall sound settings. The second set of controls will let you select the output device and volume for running apps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi.

 

I have a program called Stascom. It gives the time, announces battery level, and will correct the volume of the sound device if it gets too low. Even though it’s no longer being developed, I like it. I have a small problem. It’s speech is going through my internal sound device, and I’d prefer it to go through the default device. I’ve looked everywhere I can think of, but there’s nothing obvious. I looked in the program, and found nothing. I then thought it might have something to do with system sounds, but those go through the default device. I even checked out Microsoft speech, which is used, and that’s going through the proper device.

 

Any ideas? Something tells me this is a very simple fix. Oh yeah, uninstalling and reinstalling the program didn’t change anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


Re: How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I did the steps Joseph mentioned. Didn’t work.

 

Oh well.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:05 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Kevin, honestly not sure, so, you'd probably do best to follow Joseph's advice - I just went there, and did find stascom.exe listed in currently running apps.

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
/Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-03-01 02:57 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi.

 

What am I looking for to change SAPI5 settings? All I’m finding is speech recognition.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 12:43 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

FWIW, I forwarded the original post on to the developer of stascom, and, here is his response:

---response---

I quote from my page, which you can perhaps share with the mailing list.

"• On-the-fly changes of the default audio output device will be honoured by program specific voice notifications. To ensure that this works as expected, the advanced setting for SAPI5 settings in Windows should be set to use "preferred audio device" instead of a specific sound card;"

---end response---

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-02-28 07:23 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Go to Settings (Windows+I)/System/Sound/App volume and device preferences. The first set of controls is master volume and overall sound settings. The second set of controls will let you select the output device and volume for running apps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi.

 

I have a program called Stascom. It gives the time, announces battery level, and will correct the volume of the sound device if it gets too low. Even though it’s no longer being developed, I like it. I have a small problem. It’s speech is going through my internal sound device, and I’d prefer it to go through the default device. I’ve looked everywhere I can think of, but there’s nothing obvious. I looked in the program, and found nothing. I then thought it might have something to do with system sounds, but those go through the default device. I even checked out Microsoft speech, which is used, and that’s going through the proper device.

 

Any ideas? Something tells me this is a very simple fix. Oh yeah, uninstalling and reinstalling the program didn’t change anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


Re: How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

Jacob Kruger
 

Kevin, honestly not sure, so, you'd probably do best to follow Joseph's advice - I just went there, and did find stascom.exe listed in currently running apps.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
/Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-03-01 02:57 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi.

 

What am I looking for to change SAPI5 settings? All I’m finding is speech recognition.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 12:43 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

FWIW, I forwarded the original post on to the developer of stascom, and, here is his response:

---response---

I quote from my page, which you can perhaps share with the mailing list.

"• On-the-fly changes of the default audio output device will be honoured by program specific voice notifications. To ensure that this works as expected, the advanced setting for SAPI5 settings in Windows should be set to use "preferred audio device" instead of a specific sound card;"

---end response---

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-02-28 07:23 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Go to Settings (Windows+I)/System/Sound/App volume and device preferences. The first set of controls is master volume and overall sound settings. The second set of controls will let you select the output device and volume for running apps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi.

 

I have a program called Stascom. It gives the time, announces battery level, and will correct the volume of the sound device if it gets too low. Even though it’s no longer being developed, I like it. I have a small problem. It’s speech is going through my internal sound device, and I’d prefer it to go through the default device. I’ve looked everywhere I can think of, but there’s nothing obvious. I looked in the program, and found nothing. I then thought it might have something to do with system sounds, but those go through the default device. I even checked out Microsoft speech, which is used, and that’s going through the proper device.

 

Any ideas? Something tells me this is a very simple fix. Oh yeah, uninstalling and reinstalling the program didn’t change anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


Re: How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

What am I looking for to change SAPI5 settings? All I’m finding is speech recognition.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 12:43 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

FWIW, I forwarded the original post on to the developer of stascom, and, here is his response:

---response---

I quote from my page, which you can perhaps share with the mailing list.

"• On-the-fly changes of the default audio output device will be honoured by program specific voice notifications. To ensure that this works as expected, the advanced setting for SAPI5 settings in Windows should be set to use "preferred audio device" instead of a specific sound card;"

---end response---

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-02-28 07:23 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Go to Settings (Windows+I)/System/Sound/App volume and device preferences. The first set of controls is master volume and overall sound settings. The second set of controls will let you select the output device and volume for running apps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi.

 

I have a program called Stascom. It gives the time, announces battery level, and will correct the volume of the sound device if it gets too low. Even though it’s no longer being developed, I like it. I have a small problem. It’s speech is going through my internal sound device, and I’d prefer it to go through the default device. I’ve looked everywhere I can think of, but there’s nothing obvious. I looked in the program, and found nothing. I then thought it might have something to do with system sounds, but those go through the default device. I even checked out Microsoft speech, which is used, and that’s going through the proper device.

 

Any ideas? Something tells me this is a very simple fix. Oh yeah, uninstalling and reinstalling the program didn’t change anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


Re: How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

Jacob Kruger
 

FWIW, I forwarded the original post on to the developer of stascom, and, here is his response:

---response---

I quote from my page, which you can perhaps share with the mailing list.

"• On-the-fly changes of the default audio output device will be honoured by program specific voice notifications. To ensure that this works as expected, the advanced setting for SAPI5 settings in Windows should be set to use "preferred audio device" instead of a specific sound card;"

---end response---


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-02-28 07:23 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Go to Settings (Windows+I)/System/Sound/App volume and device preferences. The first set of controls is master volume and overall sound settings. The second set of controls will let you select the output device and volume for running apps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi.

 

I have a program called Stascom. It gives the time, announces battery level, and will correct the volume of the sound device if it gets too low. Even though it’s no longer being developed, I like it. I have a small problem. It’s speech is going through my internal sound device, and I’d prefer it to go through the default device. I’ve looked everywhere I can think of, but there’s nothing obvious. I looked in the program, and found nothing. I then thought it might have something to do with system sounds, but those go through the default device. I even checked out Microsoft speech, which is used, and that’s going through the proper device.

 

Any ideas? Something tells me this is a very simple fix. Oh yeah, uninstalling and reinstalling the program didn’t change anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


Re: article: How to Fix Windows 10 File Explorer Not Responding

Jacob Kruger
 

Kevin, that's exactly how mine has, occasionally, been behaving, but, haven't experienced it for the last week or so, so, maybe all the maintenance processes did help.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-02-28 11:18 PM, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:
Hi,   I just got the vaccine yesterday and not feeling that well so will play later. but I rebooted my computer from cold and got the explorer problem! it seemed to fix it's self after about 5 minutes.

On 28/02/2021 08:41, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Well, Kevin, haven't had the launch-lag again as of yet, so, maybe, but, will have to wait and see if it occurs again, but, think will archive this article in any case, since the topics/processes do make sense.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-02-26 11:44 PM, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:
Hi, thanks will take a look. did anything help with You?

On 26/02/2021 05:32, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Along lines of my recent question, here's an article with a set of steps to try to, possibly, sort out issues with file explorer being laggy, or unresponsive - not sure it really relates to it taking a while to launch, but, have run through these steps in any case:

https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-10/how-to-fix-windows-10-file-explorer-not-responding/


Effectively - sort of explaining each step, and the reason for considering it, they talk about modifying windows display layout, killing file explorer process - think that one is least relevant in my context - running system file check, which I did, with no bad results, clearing file explorer history cache,which might very well be relevant, checking video driver update status, windows update check, check for viruses and malware, and run system memory diagnostics.


In other words, while not necessarily relevant, some of these steps/processes might be something to keep in mind in any case in terms of performance, reliability, etc. - hence why I am sharing it.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."























Re: Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

Jason White
 

I’ve done this successfully using Narrator as described. All of the drivers needed by the machine were automatically installed – it was a Lenovo ThinkPad laptop. I then installed the Lenovo update utility (Lenovo Vantage) Of course, I also installed NVDA and JAWS after the Windows installation had completed.

At that point, I proceeded to install all of the applications I wanted.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Sunday, 28 February 2021 16:46
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

You can do a clean install by yourself.

 

 


 

On 2/28/2021 4:44 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

A clean install is nessecarry. I hate geek squad.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:24 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

Absolutely, as long as you can figure out how to bring up the boot menu or how to boot from the optical or usb media, you are in business, give it a minute or to to start loading the setup and then just launch Narrator, it will talk the installation and you are on your way.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: 27 February 2021 02:32
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

The geek squad puts a branding on your computer.  Not sure if that slows anything down.  But all that Dell crap can be removed.  I think it’d be better if you did a clean install of windows 10 yourself, it’s easier than you might think and you won’t get any crap you don’t want!

 

email is golden!!!

Kevin Lee

 

From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 7:45 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

Hi all,

 

 

I had the geek squad reinstall windows 10 on my Dell laptop last weekend

because I couldn't boot into windows and they told me it was a software

problem. I've spent all week slowly getting things reset, and at times

the machine has seemed to run a bit slower loading web pages and opening

some programs but it's worse than ever this morning.

 

 

The geek squad installed something called Webroot and I found out from

another list that if I just run malware bytes pro and windows defender

that I don't need that so I uninstalled it and I had no problems with that.

 

 

As I said in my subject line this is a Dell laptop and some stuff that I

had shut down before is now back since the reinstallation that was

active when the machine was new, such as something called I think Dell

connect that tells me something about using my phone to do something

although I haven't paid much attention to that, does anybody know if

that's safe to uninstall and more importantly might that help this

morning's sluggishness? Also there's lots of Dell stuff in the list of

installed programs, since the machine isn't under warranty anymore can

that stuff be safely removed?

 

 

I've actually gone into more than I intended to in this e-mail but if

someone can give me some ideas of what might be causing my sluggishness

I'd appreciate it. Web pages are taking longer to load in google chrome

than they did before the reinstall, and I use thunderbird as my e-mail

client and that seems to be taking forever to open as well.

 

 

Troy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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locked Re: Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

Laurie Mehta
 

Thank you Joseph🙏🏽
And thanks Gerald for sharing the article.
— Laurie Mehta



“May the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times and in every way.”
 (2 Thessalonians 3:16) 

On Feb 28, 2021, at 07:18, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Hi list.  In view of Joseph's  message about the pandemic, I thought I would share the following relevant article which describes the trouble many blind people have been experiencing trying to make appointments online for Covid vaccinations:


[tech-vi Announce List] COVID vaccine websites create inequity for the blind - ModernHealthcare.com

"Screen reader" - Google News - Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:33 PM

COVID vaccine websites create inequity for the blind - ModernHealthcare.com

Many COVID vaccination registration and information websites at the federal, state and local levels violate disability rights laws, hindering the ability
of blind people to sign up for a potentially lifesaving vaccine, a KHN investigation has found.

Across the country, people who use special software to make the web accessible have been unable to sign up for the vaccines or obtain vital information
about COVID-19 because many government websites lack required accessibility features. At least 7.6 million people in the U.S. over age 16 have a visual
disability.

WebAIM, a nonprofit web accessibility organization, checked COVID vaccine websites gathered by KHN from all 50 states and the District of Columbia. On
Jan. 27, it found accessibility issues on nearly all of 94 webpages, which included general vaccine information, lists of vaccine providers and registration
forms.

In at least seven states, blind residents said they were unable to register for the vaccine through their state or local governments without help. Phone
alternatives, when available, have been beset with their own issues, such as long hold times and not being available at all hours like websites.

Even the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Vaccine Administration Management System, which a small number of states and counties opted
to use after its rocky rollout, has been inaccessible for blind users.

Those problems violate the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which established the right to communications in an accessible format, multiple legal experts and
disability advocates said. The federal Americans with Disabilities Act, a civil rights law that prohibits governments and private businesses from discriminating
based on disability, further enshrined this protection in 1990.

Doris Ray, 72, who is blind and has a significant hearing impairment, ran into such issues when she tried to sign up for a vaccine last month with the
CDC's system, used by Arlington County in Virginia. As the outreach director for the ENDependence Center of Northern Virginia, an advocacy center run by
and for people with disabilities, she had qualified for the vaccine because of her in-person work with clients.

When she used screen-reading technology, which reads a website's text aloud, the drop-down field to identify her county did not work. She was unable to
register for over two weeks, until a colleague helped her.

"This is outrageous in the time of a public health emergency, that blind people aren't able to access something to get vaccinated," Ray said.

Mark Riccobono, president of the National Federation of the Blind, wrote to the U.S. Health and Human Services Department in early December, laying out
his concerns on vaccine accessibility.

"A national emergency does not exempt federal, state, and local governments from providing equal access," he wrote.

Dr. Robert Redfield, who was then leading the CDC, responded that the interim vaccine playbook for health departments included a reminder of the legal
requirements for accessible information.

CDC spokesperson Jasmine Reed said in an email that VAMS is compliant with federal accessibility laws and that the agency requires testing of its services.

But more than two months into a national vaccine campaign, those on the ground report problems at all levels.

Some local officials who use VAMS are aware of the ongoing problems and blame the federal government. Arlington Assistant County Manager Bryna Helfer said
that because VAMS is run by the federal government the county cannot access the internal workings to troubleshoot the system for blind residents.

Connecticut Department of Public Health spokesperson Maura Fitzgerald said the state was aware of "many accessibility issues" with VAMS. She said it had
staffed up its call center to handle the problems and was working with the federal government "to improve VAMS and enable the functionality that was promised."

Deanna O'Brien, president of the National Federation of the Blind of New Hampshire, said she had heard from blind people unable to use the system. New
Hampshire's health department did not answer KHN questions about the problems.

Blind people are particularly vulnerable to contracting the COVID virus because they often cannot physically distance themselves from others.

"When I go to the grocery store, I do not have the option of walking around and not being near a person," said Albert Elia, a blind attorney who works
with the San Francisco-based TRE Legal Practice on accessibility cases. "I need a person at the store to assist me in shopping."

There is no standardized way to register for a COVID vaccine nationwide — or fix the online accessibility problems. Some states use VAMS; some states have
centralized online vaccination registration sites; others have a mix of state-run and locally run websites, or leave it all to local health departments
or hospitals. Ultimately, state and local governments are responsible for making their vaccination systems accessible, whether they use the VAMS system
or not.

"Once those portals open, it's a race to see who can click the fastest," Riccobono said. "We don't have time to do things like file a lawsuit, because,
at the end of the day, we need to fix it today."

Common programming failures that make sites hard to use for the visually impaired included text without enough contrast to distinguish words from the page's
background and images without alternative text explaining what they showed, the WebAIM survey showed. Even worse, portions of the forms on 19 states' pages
were built so that screen readers couldn't decipher what information a user should enter on search bars or vaccine registration forms.

The new vaccine pages had more errors than states' main coronavirus pages but slightly fewer than state government websites in general, said WebAIM Associate
Director Jared Smith.

In Alameda County, California, when Bryan Bashin, 65, who is blind and CEO of the LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired in San Francisco, tried
to sign up on Feb. 9 for his vaccine appointment, he encountered multiple hurdles. The appointments slipped away. That night he received an email from
the city of Berkeley offering vaccinations. But after two hours struggling with its inaccessible website, all the slots were again taken, he said in an
email.

He was only able to get an appointment after his sighted sister signed him up and has since received his first shot.

"It's an awful bit of discrimination, one as stinging as anything I've experienced," Bashin said.

Susan Jones, a blind 69-year-old in Indianapolis, had to rely on the Aira app, which allows a sighted person to operate her computer remotely, when she
tried to register for her vaccine appointment.

"I resent that the assumption is that a sighted fairy godmother ought to be there at all times," said Sheela Gunn-Cushman, a 49-year-old also in Alameda
County, who also had to rely on Aira to complete preregistration for a vaccine.

Emily Creasy, 23, a visually impaired woman in Polk County, Oregon, said she tried unsuccessfully for a month to make the scheduling apparatus work with
her screen reader. She finally received her first shot after her mother and roommate helped her.

Even Sachin Dev Pavithran, 43, who is blind and executive director of the U.S. Access Board, an independent agency of the federal government that works
to increase accessibility, said he struggled to access vaccine registration information in Logan, Utah.

The Indiana Health Department, Public Health Division of Berkeley and Oregon's Polk County Public Health did not respond to requests for comment. Utah's
Bear River Health Department did not answer questions on the issue.

After Alameda County received complaints from users that its site was not compatible with screen readers, officials decided to move away from its preregistration
technology, Health Department spokesperson Neetu Balram said in mid-February. The county has since switched to a new form.

If vaccine accessibility issues are not fixed across the country, though, lawsuits could come next, Elia said. Members of the blind community recently
won landmark lawsuits against Domino's Pizza and the Winn-Dixie grocery chain after being unable to order online.

And, Elia said, "this is not ordering a pizza — this is being able to get a potentially lifesaving vaccine."

Kaiser Health News
is a national health policy news service. It is an editorially independent program of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, which is not affiliated with
Kaiser Permanente.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/covid-vaccine-websites-violate-disability-laws-create-inequity-blind

     David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.info
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Re: Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

You can do a clean install by yourself.





On 2/28/2021 4:44 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

A clean install is nessecarry. I hate geek squad.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:24 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

Absolutely, as long as you can figure out how to bring up the boot menu or how to boot from the optical or usb media, you are in business, give it a minute or to to start loading the setup and then just launch Narrator, it will talk the installation and you are on your way.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: 27 February 2021 02:32
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

The geek squad puts a branding on your computer.  Not sure if that slows anything down.  But all that Dell crap can be removed.  I think it’d be better if you did a clean install of windows 10 yourself, it’s easier than you might think and you won’t get any crap you don’t want!

 

email is golden!!!

Kevin Lee

 

From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 7:45 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

Hi all,

 

 

I had the geek squad reinstall windows 10 on my Dell laptop last weekend

because I couldn't boot into windows and they told me it was a software

problem. I've spent all week slowly getting things reset, and at times

the machine has seemed to run a bit slower loading web pages and opening

some programs but it's worse than ever this morning.

 

 

The geek squad installed something called Webroot and I found out from

another list that if I just run malware bytes pro and windows defender

that I don't need that so I uninstalled it and I had no problems with that.

 

 

As I said in my subject line this is a Dell laptop and some stuff that I

had shut down before is now back since the reinstallation that was

active when the machine was new, such as something called I think Dell

connect that tells me something about using my phone to do something

although I haven't paid much attention to that, does anybody know if

that's safe to uninstall and more importantly might that help this

morning's sluggishness? Also there's lots of Dell stuff in the list of

installed programs, since the machine isn't under warranty anymore can

that stuff be safely removed?

 

 

I've actually gone into more than I intended to in this e-mail but if

someone can give me some ideas of what might be causing my sluggishness

I'd appreciate it. Web pages are taking longer to load in google chrome

than they did before the reinstall, and I use thunderbird as my e-mail

client and that seems to be taking forever to open as well.

 

 

Troy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

A clean install is nessecarry. I hate geek squad.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:24 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

Absolutely, as long as you can figure out how to bring up the boot menu or how to boot from the optical or usb media, you are in business, give it a minute or to to start loading the setup and then just launch Narrator, it will talk the installation and you are on your way.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: 27 February 2021 02:32
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

The geek squad puts a branding on your computer.  Not sure if that slows anything down.  But all that Dell crap can be removed.  I think it’d be better if you did a clean install of windows 10 yourself, it’s easier than you might think and you won’t get any crap you don’t want!

 

email is golden!!!

Kevin Lee

 

From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 7:45 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Dell laptop very sluggish after reinstallation of windows 10

 

Hi all,

 

 

I had the geek squad reinstall windows 10 on my Dell laptop last weekend

because I couldn't boot into windows and they told me it was a software

problem. I've spent all week slowly getting things reset, and at times

the machine has seemed to run a bit slower loading web pages and opening

some programs but it's worse than ever this morning.

 

 

The geek squad installed something called Webroot and I found out from

another list that if I just run malware bytes pro and windows defender

that I don't need that so I uninstalled it and I had no problems with that.

 

 

As I said in my subject line this is a Dell laptop and some stuff that I

had shut down before is now back since the reinstallation that was

active when the machine was new, such as something called I think Dell

connect that tells me something about using my phone to do something

although I haven't paid much attention to that, does anybody know if

that's safe to uninstall and more importantly might that help this

morning's sluggishness? Also there's lots of Dell stuff in the list of

installed programs, since the machine isn't under warranty anymore can

that stuff be safely removed?

 

 

I've actually gone into more than I intended to in this e-mail but if

someone can give me some ideas of what might be causing my sluggishness

I'd appreciate it. Web pages are taking longer to load in google chrome

than they did before the reinstall, and I use thunderbird as my e-mail

client and that seems to be taking forever to open as well.

 

 

Troy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: article: How to Fix Windows 10 File Explorer Not Responding

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I just got the vaccine yesterday and not feeling that well so will play later. but I rebooted my computer from cold and got the explorer problem! it seemed to fix it's self after about 5 minutes.

On 28/02/2021 08:41, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Well, Kevin, haven't had the launch-lag again as of yet, so, maybe, but, will have to wait and see if it occurs again, but, think will archive this article in any case, since the topics/processes do make sense.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-02-26 11:44 PM, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:
Hi, thanks will take a look. did anything help with You?

On 26/02/2021 05:32, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Along lines of my recent question, here's an article with a set of steps to try to, possibly, sort out issues with file explorer being laggy, or unresponsive - not sure it really relates to it taking a while to launch, but, have run through these steps in any case:

https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-10/how-to-fix-windows-10-file-explorer-not-responding/


Effectively - sort of explaining each step, and the reason for considering it, they talk about modifying windows display layout, killing file explorer process - think that one is least relevant in my context - running system file check, which I did, with no bad results, clearing file explorer history cache,which might very well be relevant, checking video driver update status, windows update check, check for viruses and malware, and run system memory diagnostics.


In other words, while not necessarily relevant, some of these steps/processes might be something to keep in mind in any case in terms of performance, reliability, etc. - hence why I am sharing it.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
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Re: "Meet Now" Showing-up in System Tray After Update to 2004

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

1.  It is not Skype, is the new function Meet Now.  It is a competitor to Zoom and Skype and similar.

2.  If you don't want it there, you hide it.  Meet Now, like Skype, Calculator, and myriad other apps are part and parcel of Windows 10.  You don't remove them, you just make them "disappear" by hiding the method of invocation.  Nothing runs behind the scenes for Meet Now unless you open it.
--

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Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted.

       ~Albert Einstein


"Meet Now" Showing-up in System Tray After Update to 2004

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

After updating to Windows 10 version 2004, “Meet Now” always shows-up in my system tray.  A right click (applications key) on that icon only yields options to 1) open or 2) hide.  I think the relevant application if Skype; which is set *not* to start at startup.  I do not want this in my system tray.  I do not want to “hide” it.  What I *do* want is the application *not* to start upon startup.  How do I accomplish this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

Sarah k Alawami
 

You can also type sndvol in the run dialogue and get the same dialogue. You can even from there change the default device via the tool bar there. I love it.

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:23 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi,

Go to Settings (Windows+I)/System/Sound/App volume and device preferences. The first set of controls is master volume and overall sound settings. The second set of controls will let you select the output device and volume for running apps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi.

 

I have a program called Stascom. It gives the time, announces battery level, and will correct the volume of the sound device if it gets too low. Even though it’s no longer being developed, I like it. I have a small problem. It’s speech is going through my internal sound device, and I’d prefer it to go through the default device. I’ve looked everywhere I can think of, but there’s nothing obvious. I looked in the program, and found nothing. I then thought it might have something to do with system sounds, but those go through the default device. I even checked out Microsoft speech, which is used, and that’s going through the proper device.

 

Any ideas? Something tells me this is a very simple fix. Oh yeah, uninstalling and reinstalling the program didn’t change anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


Re: How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi,

Go to Settings (Windows+I)/System/Sound/App volume and device preferences. The first set of controls is master volume and overall sound settings. The second set of controls will let you select the output device and volume for running apps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

 

Hi.

 

I have a program called Stascom. It gives the time, announces battery level, and will correct the volume of the sound device if it gets too low. Even though it’s no longer being developed, I like it. I have a small problem. It’s speech is going through my internal sound device, and I’d prefer it to go through the default device. I’ve looked everywhere I can think of, but there’s nothing obvious. I looked in the program, and found nothing. I then thought it might have something to do with system sounds, but those go through the default device. I even checked out Microsoft speech, which is used, and that’s going through the proper device.

 

Any ideas? Something tells me this is a very simple fix. Oh yeah, uninstalling and reinstalling the program didn’t change anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


How do I change the audio output of a specific program?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I have a program called Stascom. It gives the time, announces battery level, and will correct the volume of the sound device if it gets too low. Even though it’s no longer being developed, I like it. I have a small problem. It’s speech is going through my internal sound device, and I’d prefer it to go through the default device. I’ve looked everywhere I can think of, but there’s nothing obvious. I looked in the program, and found nothing. I then thought it might have something to do with system sounds, but those go through the default device. I even checked out Microsoft speech, which is used, and that’s going through the proper device.

 

Any ideas? Something tells me this is a very simple fix. Oh yeah, uninstalling and reinstalling the program didn’t change anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


locked Re: Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

 

Hi,

My letter is related to Windows 10 simply because of digital transformations taking place due to the pandemic, and because Version 21H1 is a direct result of it – Microsoft did note the importance of remote work due to world events. More importantly, the overall purpose of the letter is to simply ask how folks are doing. Although we ought to stick with the forum topics, when it comes to dealing with a situation that affects everyone, well-being of members comes first.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Capelle
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 6:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

 

Wow, how is this related to windows 10? Really folks?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:12 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

 

How is this possible?

This is 2021. Aren’t government websites supposed to be required to be made accessible by now?

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 7:19 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

 

 

Hi list.  In view of Joseph's  message about the pandemic, I thought I would share the following relevant article which describes the trouble many blind people have been experiencing trying to make appointments online for Covid vaccinations:

 

[tech-vi Announce List] COVID vaccine websites create inequity for the blind - ModernHealthcare.com

"Screen reader" - Google News - Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:33 PM

COVID vaccine websites create inequity for the blind - ModernHealthcare.com

Many COVID vaccination registration and information websites at the federal, state and local levels violate disability rights laws, hindering the ability
of blind people to sign up for a potentially lifesaving vaccine, a KHN investigation has found.

Across the country, people who use special software to make the web accessible have been unable to sign up for the vaccines or obtain vital information
about COVID-19 because many government websites lack required accessibility features. At least 7.6 million people in the U.S. over age 16 have a visual
disability.

WebAIM, a nonprofit web accessibility organization, checked COVID vaccine websites gathered by KHN from all 50 states and the District of Columbia. On
Jan. 27, it found accessibility issues on nearly all of 94 webpages, which included general vaccine information, lists of vaccine providers and registration
forms.

In at least seven states, blind residents said they were unable to register for the vaccine through their state or local governments without help. Phone
alternatives, when available, have been beset with their own issues, such as long hold times and not being available at all hours like websites.

Even the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Vaccine Administration Management System, which a small number of states and counties opted
to use after its rocky rollout, has been inaccessible for blind users.

Those problems violate the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which established the right to communications in an accessible format, multiple legal experts and
disability advocates said. The federal Americans with Disabilities Act, a civil rights law that prohibits governments and private businesses from discriminating
based on disability, further enshrined this protection in 1990.

Doris Ray, 72, who is blind and has a significant hearing impairment, ran into such issues when she tried to sign up for a vaccine last month with the
CDC's system, used by Arlington County in Virginia. As the outreach director for the ENDependence Center of Northern Virginia, an advocacy center run by
and for people with disabilities, she had qualified for the vaccine because of her in-person work with clients.

When she used screen-reading technology, which reads a website's text aloud, the drop-down field to identify her county did not work. She was unable to
register for over two weeks, until a colleague helped her.

"This is outrageous in the time of a public health emergency, that blind people aren't able to access something to get vaccinated," Ray said.

Mark Riccobono, president of the National Federation of the Blind, wrote to the U.S. Health and Human Services Department in early December, laying out
his concerns on vaccine accessibility.

"A national emergency does not exempt federal, state, and local governments from providing equal access," he wrote.

Dr. Robert Redfield, who was then leading the CDC, responded that the interim vaccine playbook for health departments included a reminder of the legal
requirements for accessible information.

CDC spokesperson Jasmine Reed said in an email that VAMS is compliant with federal accessibility laws and that the agency requires testing of its services.

But more than two months into a national vaccine campaign, those on the ground report problems at all levels.

Some local officials who use VAMS are aware of the ongoing problems and blame the federal government. Arlington Assistant County Manager Bryna Helfer said
that because VAMS is run by the federal government the county cannot access the internal workings to troubleshoot the system for blind residents.

Connecticut Department of Public Health spokesperson Maura Fitzgerald said the state was aware of "many accessibility issues" with VAMS. She said it had
staffed up its call center to handle the problems and was working with the federal government "to improve VAMS and enable the functionality that was promised."

Deanna O'Brien, president of the National Federation of the Blind of New Hampshire, said she had heard from blind people unable to use the system. New
Hampshire's health department did not answer KHN questions about the problems.

Blind people are particularly vulnerable to contracting the COVID virus because they often cannot physically distance themselves from others.

"When I go to the grocery store, I do not have the option of walking around and not being near a person," said Albert Elia, a blind attorney who works
with the San Francisco-based TRE Legal Practice on accessibility cases. "I need a person at the store to assist me in shopping."

There is no standardized way to register for a COVID vaccine nationwide — or fix the online accessibility problems. Some states use VAMS; some states have
centralized online vaccination registration sites; others have a mix of state-run and locally run websites, or leave it all to local health departments
or hospitals. Ultimately, state and local governments are responsible for making their vaccination systems accessible, whether they use the VAMS system
or not.

"Once those portals open, it's a race to see who can click the fastest," Riccobono said. "We don't have time to do things like file a lawsuit, because,
at the end of the day, we need to fix it today."

Common programming failures that make sites hard to use for the visually impaired included text without enough contrast to distinguish words from the page's
background and images without alternative text explaining what they showed, the WebAIM survey showed. Even worse, portions of the forms on 19 states' pages
were built so that screen readers couldn't decipher what information a user should enter on search bars or vaccine registration forms.

The new vaccine pages had more errors than states' main coronavirus pages but slightly fewer than state government websites in general, said WebAIM Associate
Director Jared Smith.

In Alameda County, California, when Bryan Bashin, 65, who is blind and CEO of the LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired in San Francisco, tried
to sign up on Feb. 9 for his vaccine appointment, he encountered multiple hurdles. The appointments slipped away. That night he received an email from
the city of Berkeley offering vaccinations. But after two hours struggling with its inaccessible website, all the slots were again taken, he said in an
email.

He was only able to get an appointment after his sighted sister signed him up and has since received his first shot.

"It's an awful bit of discrimination, one as stinging as anything I've experienced," Bashin said.

Susan Jones, a blind 69-year-old in Indianapolis, had to rely on the Aira app, which allows a sighted person to operate her computer remotely, when she
tried to register for her vaccine appointment.

"I resent that the assumption is that a sighted fairy godmother ought to be there at all times," said Sheela Gunn-Cushman, a 49-year-old also in Alameda
County, who also had to rely on Aira to complete preregistration for a vaccine.

Emily Creasy, 23, a visually impaired woman in Polk County, Oregon, said she tried unsuccessfully for a month to make the scheduling apparatus work with
her screen reader. She finally received her first shot after her mother and roommate helped her.

Even Sachin Dev Pavithran, 43, who is blind and executive director of the U.S. Access Board, an independent agency of the federal government that works
to increase accessibility, said he struggled to access vaccine registration information in Logan, Utah.

The Indiana Health Department, Public Health Division of Berkeley and Oregon's Polk County Public Health did not respond to requests for comment. Utah's
Bear River Health Department did not answer questions on the issue.

After Alameda County received complaints from users that its site was not compatible with screen readers, officials decided to move away from its preregistration
technology, Health Department spokesperson Neetu Balram said in mid-February. The county has since switched to a new form.

If vaccine accessibility issues are not fixed across the country, though, lawsuits could come next, Elia said. Members of the blind community recently
won landmark lawsuits against Domino's Pizza and the Winn-Dixie grocery chain after being unable to order online.

And, Elia said, "this is not ordering a pizza — this is being able to get a potentially lifesaving vaccine."

Kaiser Health News
is a national health policy news service. It is an editorially independent program of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, which is not affiliated with
Kaiser Permanente.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/covid-vaccine-websites-violate-disability-laws-create-inequity-blind

     David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.info
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locked Re: Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 11:21 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
Actually,anything that involves screen readers, either directly or indirectly, is related to Windows 10.
-
No, it emphatically does not.  Period, end of sentence.

Screen readers (including Narrator) are application software of a special sort that inserts itself in between the operating system and the applications they're being used to access.  They are separate from the operating systems under which they run, and it is critical that folks be able to differentiate between operating system, screen reader, and applications screen readers are being used to access.  Those are three different echelons of control.

A very great many problems on all of the blind technology groups stem very directly because the user does not know or understand what the controlling entity actually is.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted.

       ~Albert Einstein


locked Re: Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

Gerald Levy
 


Actually,anything that involves screen readers, either directly or indirectly, is related to Windows 10.  And to be perfectly blunt, Windows 10 itself, which many blind computer users have reported problems with, presents yet another hurdle to making vaccination appointments online.  Besides, many blind people seem to be totally oblivious to the pandemic, and so Joseph was absolutely justified bringing attention to this important issue on this list, even if it is not directly Windows 10 related.


Gerald



On 2/28/2021 9:47 AM, Mike Capelle wrote:

Wow, how is this related to windows 10? Really folks?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:12 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

 

How is this possible?

This is 2021. Aren’t government websites supposed to be required to be made accessible by now?

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 7:19 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Letter from the head list representative: pandemic check-in, your health matters first #AdminNotice

 

 

Hi list.  In view of Joseph's  message about the pandemic, I thought I would share the following relevant article which describes the trouble many blind people have been experiencing trying to make appointments online for Covid vaccinations:

 

[tech-vi Announce List] COVID vaccine websites create inequity for the blind - ModernHealthcare.com

"Screen reader" - Google News - Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:33 PM

COVID vaccine websites create inequity for the blind - ModernHealthcare.com

Many COVID vaccination registration and information websites at the federal, state and local levels violate disability rights laws, hindering the ability
of blind people to sign up for a potentially lifesaving vaccine, a KHN investigation has found.

Across the country, people who use special software to make the web accessible have been unable to sign up for the vaccines or obtain vital information
about COVID-19 because many government websites lack required accessibility features. At least 7.6 million people in the U.S. over age 16 have a visual
disability.

WebAIM, a nonprofit web accessibility organization, checked COVID vaccine websites gathered by KHN from all 50 states and the District of Columbia. On
Jan. 27, it found accessibility issues on nearly all of 94 webpages, which included general vaccine information, lists of vaccine providers and registration
forms.

In at least seven states, blind residents said they were unable to register for the vaccine through their state or local governments without help. Phone
alternatives, when available, have been beset with their own issues, such as long hold times and not being available at all hours like websites.

Even the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Vaccine Administration Management System, which a small number of states and counties opted
to use after its rocky rollout, has been inaccessible for blind users.

Those problems violate the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which established the right to communications in an accessible format, multiple legal experts and
disability advocates said. The federal Americans with Disabilities Act, a civil rights law that prohibits governments and private businesses from discriminating
based on disability, further enshrined this protection in 1990.

Doris Ray, 72, who is blind and has a significant hearing impairment, ran into such issues when she tried to sign up for a vaccine last month with the
CDC's system, used by Arlington County in Virginia. As the outreach director for the ENDependence Center of Northern Virginia, an advocacy center run by
and for people with disabilities, she had qualified for the vaccine because of her in-person work with clients.

When she used screen-reading technology, which reads a website's text aloud, the drop-down field to identify her county did not work. She was unable to
register for over two weeks, until a colleague helped her.

"This is outrageous in the time of a public health emergency, that blind people aren't able to access something to get vaccinated," Ray said.

Mark Riccobono, president of the National Federation of the Blind, wrote to the U.S. Health and Human Services Department in early December, laying out
his concerns on vaccine accessibility.

"A national emergency does not exempt federal, state, and local governments from providing equal access," he wrote.

Dr. Robert Redfield, who was then leading the CDC, responded that the interim vaccine playbook for health departments included a reminder of the legal
requirements for accessible information.

CDC spokesperson Jasmine Reed said in an email that VAMS is compliant with federal accessibility laws and that the agency requires testing of its services.

But more than two months into a national vaccine campaign, those on the ground report problems at all levels.

Some local officials who use VAMS are aware of the ongoing problems and blame the federal government. Arlington Assistant County Manager Bryna Helfer said
that because VAMS is run by the federal government the county cannot access the internal workings to troubleshoot the system for blind residents.

Connecticut Department of Public Health spokesperson Maura Fitzgerald said the state was aware of "many accessibility issues" with VAMS. She said it had
staffed up its call center to handle the problems and was working with the federal government "to improve VAMS and enable the functionality that was promised."

Deanna O'Brien, president of the National Federation of the Blind of New Hampshire, said she had heard from blind people unable to use the system. New
Hampshire's health department did not answer KHN questions about the problems.

Blind people are particularly vulnerable to contracting the COVID virus because they often cannot physically distance themselves from others.

"When I go to the grocery store, I do not have the option of walking around and not being near a person," said Albert Elia, a blind attorney who works
with the San Francisco-based TRE Legal Practice on accessibility cases. "I need a person at the store to assist me in shopping."

There is no standardized way to register for a COVID vaccine nationwide — or fix the online accessibility problems. Some states use VAMS; some states have
centralized online vaccination registration sites; others have a mix of state-run and locally run websites, or leave it all to local health departments
or hospitals. Ultimately, state and local governments are responsible for making their vaccination systems accessible, whether they use the VAMS system
or not.

"Once those portals open, it's a race to see who can click the fastest," Riccobono said. "We don't have time to do things like file a lawsuit, because,
at the end of the day, we need to fix it today."

Common programming failures that make sites hard to use for the visually impaired included text without enough contrast to distinguish words from the page's
background and images without alternative text explaining what they showed, the WebAIM survey showed. Even worse, portions of the forms on 19 states' pages
were built so that screen readers couldn't decipher what information a user should enter on search bars or vaccine registration forms.

The new vaccine pages had more errors than states' main coronavirus pages but slightly fewer than state government websites in general, said WebAIM Associate
Director Jared Smith.

In Alameda County, California, when Bryan Bashin, 65, who is blind and CEO of the LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired in San Francisco, tried
to sign up on Feb. 9 for his vaccine appointment, he encountered multiple hurdles. The appointments slipped away. That night he received an email from
the city of Berkeley offering vaccinations. But after two hours struggling with its inaccessible website, all the slots were again taken, he said in an
email.

He was only able to get an appointment after his sighted sister signed him up and has since received his first shot.

"It's an awful bit of discrimination, one as stinging as anything I've experienced," Bashin said.

Susan Jones, a blind 69-year-old in Indianapolis, had to rely on the Aira app, which allows a sighted person to operate her computer remotely, when she
tried to register for her vaccine appointment.

"I resent that the assumption is that a sighted fairy godmother ought to be there at all times," said Sheela Gunn-Cushman, a 49-year-old also in Alameda
County, who also had to rely on Aira to complete preregistration for a vaccine.

Emily Creasy, 23, a visually impaired woman in Polk County, Oregon, said she tried unsuccessfully for a month to make the scheduling apparatus work with
her screen reader. She finally received her first shot after her mother and roommate helped her.

Even Sachin Dev Pavithran, 43, who is blind and executive director of the U.S. Access Board, an independent agency of the federal government that works
to increase accessibility, said he struggled to access vaccine registration information in Logan, Utah.

The Indiana Health Department, Public Health Division of Berkeley and Oregon's Polk County Public Health did not respond to requests for comment. Utah's
Bear River Health Department did not answer questions on the issue.

After Alameda County received complaints from users that its site was not compatible with screen readers, officials decided to move away from its preregistration
technology, Health Department spokesperson Neetu Balram said in mid-February. The county has since switched to a new form.

If vaccine accessibility issues are not fixed across the country, though, lawsuits could come next, Elia said. Members of the blind community recently
won landmark lawsuits against Domino's Pizza and the Winn-Dixie grocery chain after being unable to order online.

And, Elia said, "this is not ordering a pizza — this is being able to get a potentially lifesaving vaccine."

Kaiser Health News
is a national health policy news service. It is an editorially independent program of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, which is not affiliated with
Kaiser Permanente.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/covid-vaccine-websites-violate-disability-laws-create-inequity-blind

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The reason why so many government web sites are not blind accessible in that there is nobody overseeing them.  There was little or no enforcement of the ADA during the previous administration, and so the situation has become progressively worse.  You would think that the blindness advocacy groups would be outraged and take immediate legal action, but with the hodge-podge of appointment scheduling web sites throughout the country and no federal coordination among them, it would be virtually impossible to file lawsuits, which, in any case, could take years to resolve.  Also, the blindness organizations do not like to get involved in litigation unless it means a financial windfall for them, as in the case of the NFB's successful lawsuit against Target, which forced them to make their web site more screen reader friendly for blind customers, but also resulted in a $250K settlement for the NFB. I live in New York City, and not only can't I make an appointment online because most of the mishmosh of web sites are largely inaccessible with JAWS, but there have not been first dose appointments available for weeks anywhere in Manhattan where I live, anyway.


Gerald



On 2/28/2021 9:11 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

How is this possible?

This is 2021. Aren’t government websites supposed to be required to be made accessible by now?

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
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Hi list.  In view of Joseph's  message about the pandemic, I thought I would share the following relevant article which describes the trouble many blind people have been experiencing trying to make appointments online for Covid vaccinations:

 

[tech-vi Announce List] COVID vaccine websites create inequity for the blind - ModernHealthcare.com

"Screen reader" - Google News - Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:33 PM

COVID vaccine websites create inequity for the blind - ModernHealthcare.com

Many COVID vaccination registration and information websites at the federal, state and local levels violate disability rights laws, hindering the ability
of blind people to sign up for a potentially lifesaving vaccine, a KHN investigation has found.

Across the country, people who use special software to make the web accessible have been unable to sign up for the vaccines or obtain vital information
about COVID-19 because many government websites lack required accessibility features. At least 7.6 million people in the U.S. over age 16 have a visual
disability.

WebAIM, a nonprofit web accessibility organization, checked COVID vaccine websites gathered by KHN from all 50 states and the District of Columbia. On
Jan. 27, it found accessibility issues on nearly all of 94 webpages, which included general vaccine information, lists of vaccine providers and registration
forms.

In at least seven states, blind residents said they were unable to register for the vaccine through their state or local governments without help. Phone
alternatives, when available, have been beset with their own issues, such as long hold times and not being available at all hours like websites.

Even the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Vaccine Administration Management System, which a small number of states and counties opted
to use after its rocky rollout, has been inaccessible for blind users.

Those problems violate the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which established the right to communications in an accessible format, multiple legal experts and
disability advocates said. The federal Americans with Disabilities Act, a civil rights law that prohibits governments and private businesses from discriminating
based on disability, further enshrined this protection in 1990.

Doris Ray, 72, who is blind and has a significant hearing impairment, ran into such issues when she tried to sign up for a vaccine last month with the
CDC's system, used by Arlington County in Virginia. As the outreach director for the ENDependence Center of Northern Virginia, an advocacy center run by
and for people with disabilities, she had qualified for the vaccine because of her in-person work with clients.

When she used screen-reading technology, which reads a website's text aloud, the drop-down field to identify her county did not work. She was unable to
register for over two weeks, until a colleague helped her.

"This is outrageous in the time of a public health emergency, that blind people aren't able to access something to get vaccinated," Ray said.

Mark Riccobono, president of the National Federation of the Blind, wrote to the U.S. Health and Human Services Department in early December, laying out
his concerns on vaccine accessibility.

"A national emergency does not exempt federal, state, and local governments from providing equal access," he wrote.

Dr. Robert Redfield, who was then leading the CDC, responded that the interim vaccine playbook for health departments included a reminder of the legal
requirements for accessible information.

CDC spokesperson Jasmine Reed said in an email that VAMS is compliant with federal accessibility laws and that the agency requires testing of its services.

But more than two months into a national vaccine campaign, those on the ground report problems at all levels.

Some local officials who use VAMS are aware of the ongoing problems and blame the federal government. Arlington Assistant County Manager Bryna Helfer said
that because VAMS is run by the federal government the county cannot access the internal workings to troubleshoot the system for blind residents.

Connecticut Department of Public Health spokesperson Maura Fitzgerald said the state was aware of "many accessibility issues" with VAMS. She said it had
staffed up its call center to handle the problems and was working with the federal government "to improve VAMS and enable the functionality that was promised."

Deanna O'Brien, president of the National Federation of the Blind of New Hampshire, said she had heard from blind people unable to use the system. New
Hampshire's health department did not answer KHN questions about the problems.

Blind people are particularly vulnerable to contracting the COVID virus because they often cannot physically distance themselves from others.

"When I go to the grocery store, I do not have the option of walking around and not being near a person," said Albert Elia, a blind attorney who works
with the San Francisco-based TRE Legal Practice on accessibility cases. "I need a person at the store to assist me in shopping."

There is no standardized way to register for a COVID vaccine nationwide — or fix the online accessibility problems. Some states use VAMS; some states have
centralized online vaccination registration sites; others have a mix of state-run and locally run websites, or leave it all to local health departments
or hospitals. Ultimately, state and local governments are responsible for making their vaccination systems accessible, whether they use the VAMS system
or not.

"Once those portals open, it's a race to see who can click the fastest," Riccobono said. "We don't have time to do things like file a lawsuit, because,
at the end of the day, we need to fix it today."

Common programming failures that make sites hard to use for the visually impaired included text without enough contrast to distinguish words from the page's
background and images without alternative text explaining what they showed, the WebAIM survey showed. Even worse, portions of the forms on 19 states' pages
were built so that screen readers couldn't decipher what information a user should enter on search bars or vaccine registration forms.

The new vaccine pages had more errors than states' main coronavirus pages but slightly fewer than state government websites in general, said WebAIM Associate
Director Jared Smith.

In Alameda County, California, when Bryan Bashin, 65, who is blind and CEO of the LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired in San Francisco, tried
to sign up on Feb. 9 for his vaccine appointment, he encountered multiple hurdles. The appointments slipped away. That night he received an email from
the city of Berkeley offering vaccinations. But after two hours struggling with its inaccessible website, all the slots were again taken, he said in an
email.

He was only able to get an appointment after his sighted sister signed him up and has since received his first shot.

"It's an awful bit of discrimination, one as stinging as anything I've experienced," Bashin said.

Susan Jones, a blind 69-year-old in Indianapolis, had to rely on the Aira app, which allows a sighted person to operate her computer remotely, when she
tried to register for her vaccine appointment.

"I resent that the assumption is that a sighted fairy godmother ought to be there at all times," said Sheela Gunn-Cushman, a 49-year-old also in Alameda
County, who also had to rely on Aira to complete preregistration for a vaccine.

Emily Creasy, 23, a visually impaired woman in Polk County, Oregon, said she tried unsuccessfully for a month to make the scheduling apparatus work with
her screen reader. She finally received her first shot after her mother and roommate helped her.

Even Sachin Dev Pavithran, 43, who is blind and executive director of the U.S. Access Board, an independent agency of the federal government that works
to increase accessibility, said he struggled to access vaccine registration information in Logan, Utah.

The Indiana Health Department, Public Health Division of Berkeley and Oregon's Polk County Public Health did not respond to requests for comment. Utah's
Bear River Health Department did not answer questions on the issue.

After Alameda County received complaints from users that its site was not compatible with screen readers, officials decided to move away from its preregistration
technology, Health Department spokesperson Neetu Balram said in mid-February. The county has since switched to a new form.

If vaccine accessibility issues are not fixed across the country, though, lawsuits could come next, Elia said. Members of the blind community recently
won landmark lawsuits against Domino's Pizza and the Winn-Dixie grocery chain after being unable to order online.

And, Elia said, "this is not ordering a pizza — this is being able to get a potentially lifesaving vaccine."

Kaiser Health News
is a national health policy news service. It is an editorially independent program of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, which is not affiliated with
Kaiser Permanente.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/covid-vaccine-websites-violate-disability-laws-create-inequity-blind

     David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.info
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