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Re: Google Chrome Password Saving

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Well, my suspicion is that you fat-fingered your password and that's what got saved.  If you go to the location I mentioned, there is a Manage Saved Passwords section.  I'd nuke the one for the website in question and go through the process of saving it again the next time you log in.
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Re: Google Chrome Password Saving

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 

Thanks for this Brian, once I had logged in, I pressed f6 and it took me to a couple of buttons, one was to save and the other never I think.

I Clicked save which I assume saved the logon screen.

Something else is going on as it is not accepting my logon but I think that is at the web site end, that is very strange.

Not sure if there is an issue with my Chrome or something.

 

 

 

 

 

Steven Hicks

Servicedesk 2 Team Leader

Tel:  01209 318620.

Mobile:  07393 792548.

EMail:  Steven.Hicks@...

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 12 January 2021 15:52
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome Password Saving

 

Chrome Settings, Autofill Section, Passwords Item.

Once open, make sure the first toggle for Offer to save passwords is on.  The next one, Auto login, had probably ought to be on, too.  Finish exploring the panel to make sure everything is to your liking.

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Re: Google Chrome Password Saving

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 

Thanks Brian, I will give it a go.

 

 

 

 

 

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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 12 January 2021 15:52
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome Password Saving

 

Chrome Settings, Autofill Section, Passwords Item.

Once open, make sure the first toggle for Offer to save passwords is on.  The next one, Auto login, had probably ought to be on, too.  Finish exploring the panel to make sure everything is to your liking.

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Re: Google Chrome Password Saving

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Chrome Settings, Autofill Section, Passwords Item.

Once open, make sure the first toggle for Offer to save passwords is on.  The next one, Auto login, had probably ought to be on, too.  Finish exploring the panel to make sure everything is to your liking.

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Google Chrome Password Saving

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 

Hi,

 

I Have a web site that I used to be able to save the logon details for before I re-created the Google Chrome profile to troubleshoot something else.

I Cant save the logon details to this web site any more, not sure why, can anyone help please?

I Tried Google and it says about clicking the profile optons in the top right, not sure how we get to this accessibility wise?

 

 

 

 

 

Steven Hicks

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Tel:  01209 318620.

Mobile:  07393 792548.

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Re: Why does my shutdown menu always have an option to "update and restart?"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Bill,

          Feature updates can and do occasionally "burp" and result in peculiar behavior.  I've had a couple of those myself, and almost invariably, if I do a repair install afterward it fixes things.  If it doesn't, I then restore from my backup and try applying the update using these instructions, not the Download and Install link in Windows Update, after a couple of weeks have passed and using a freshly downloaded ISO file:  Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

           Notice that doing a Feature Update versus a Repair Install is exactly the same as far as the steps you follow.  The only difference is a Feature Update means you're using an ISO file for a Version that's newer than what's currently running  while a Repair Install uses a fresh copy of the ISO file for the same Version that's already running.
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi

matthew dyer
 

Matthew



On 1/11/2021 3:54 AM, g melconian wrote:

That  is strange even the better dsl speeds now a days should at least get 50 or better.  AT least that  is what iwas told. I am on cable through  comcast x finity and that they have just pushed the giga bit speeds in my neighborhood  and I really like it.spectrum with cable offers   200  that is what hey have been advertising lately, an then there is a 400 in the sspectrum  offering up which cost you about $90 or so and that  will get you  at least half of gigabit speed better then what you have.inquire about that and se if that will help you out .  I think that  all these dsl  copper wires are being phased out for fiber and 5g LTE connections going forward . 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:59 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed.

Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in your area. It will likely be faster.

 

 

On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg wrote:

Hi

I would not mide  to have such line speeds.  I Have only a 6MBS line speed and download  Is 600KBS and upload is 200KBS

Thanks

Enjoy

Timothy

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:26
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about that. Email me off list please Jarry. I wana see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@...

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Hogan
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:45 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up and down with the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a steady signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get 45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing picture with wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed test on my Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down  for the MB.

Jerry Hogan

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:

If you are using the internet then it doesn’t really matter if you use wired or wireless.

-
I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's very simply incorrect.

There are many situations (one of which was already described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich operating environment) that has the potential to have significant impacts on WiFi performance on heavy traffic channels (and older hardware isn't trying to seek out empty channels).  Ethernet never has this issue.

The above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to describe throughput is somewhat an exercise in futility.  I always use the example of either a series of pipes and hoses delivering water, where the fastest flow you will get in the whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction in that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have individuals who are significantly slower "somewhere in the middle, somewhere" and this is what limits the ultimate number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end where the water gets thrown.

I'm constantly trying to explain to my partner that the reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost never going to be the result of something on his machine, which has way more than enough firepower to handle it all at once.  It's because, somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the data coming to and going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or participants.  The same is true when the browsing experience in general slows down.  And there are times where the end you're trying to reach from wherever you are happens to be down entirely.  All of these things happen, both singly, and sometimes in combination.
 
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Journalism 101:  If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.

      ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)

I have 100 MBPS here and my wifi speed is pritty good. I have atandt internet.





Re: laptop question

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

If it has been running since March in the way it continues running now that pretty much tells you that the machine is functioning normally.

There isn't a modern processor in existence that will not throttle performance such that you really notice it if it's heading into the "near occasion of danger" as far as overheating and will shut itself down, instantly, if it gets within a couple of degrees of a true overheat condition.

Some designs are set up to run warmer than others, and to depend on active fan cooling more than others.
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Journalism 101:  If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.

      ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)


Re: to wifi or not to wifi

enes sarıbaş
 

That isn't fully correct. Only adsl1 is phased out. Plans classified under ATT internet, adsl2 plans are still being sold.


On 1/11/2021 10:39 AM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
Yes, and ATT is no longer activating new connections on ADSL. So, hopefully we will get that tech phazed out here.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 4:59 AM Cornelius <mr.buta21@...> wrote:
 
 
 
VDSL is the one which can offer higher speed than ADSL.
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 5:49 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi
 

That is simply incorrect.

ADSL, which is still alive and well, offers the worst speeds ever after satallite. I am pretty certain ADSL is the worst possible internet you can buy after satallite. The max speed over ADSL2+ is 24 mb down, and 1 mb up. And that assumes living right next to the cabinet and having best wiring. In practice,  the max speed is 12-16 mbps. I was stuck with ATT dsl because of an exclusive contract signed by the apartment complex, and even audio calls wern't relyable because regardless of the download speed, the upload was 1 mbps, which actually is 0.8 or so. And there are people who have it worse

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/what-using-atts-768kbps-dsl-is-like-in-2020-yes-its-awful/

 

 

On 1/11/2021 2:54 AM, g melconian wrote:

That  is strange even the better dsl speeds now a days should at least get 50 or better.  AT least that  is what iwas told. I am on cable through  comcast x finity and that they have just pushed the giga bit speeds in my neighborhood  and I really like it.spectrum with cable offers   200  that is what hey have been advertising lately, an then there is a 400 in the sspectrum  offering up which cost you about $90 or so and that  will get you  at least half of gigabit speed better then what you have.inquire about that and se if that will help you out .  I think that  all these dsl  copper wires are being phased out for fiber and 5g LTE connections going forward . 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:59 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed.

Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in your area. It will likely be faster.

 

 

On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg wrote:

Hi

I would not mide  to have such line speeds.  I Have only a 6MBS line speed and download  Is 600KBS and upload is 200KBS

Thanks

Enjoy

Timothy

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:26
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about that. Email me off list please Jarry. I wana see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@...

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Hogan
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:45 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up and down with the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a steady signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get 45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing picture with wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed test on my Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down  for the MB.

Jerry Hogan

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:

If you are using the internet then it doesn’t really matter if you use wired or wireless.

-
I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's very simply incorrect.

There are many situations (one of which was already described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich operating environment) that has the potential to have significant impacts on WiFi performance on heavy traffic channels (and older hardware isn't trying to seek out empty channels).  Ethernet never has this issue.

The above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to describe throughput is somewhat an exercise in futility.  I always use the example of either a series of pipes and hoses delivering water, where the fastest flow you will get in the whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction in that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have individuals who are significantly slower "somewhere in the middle, somewhere" and this is what limits the ultimate number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end where the water gets thrown.

I'm constantly trying to explain to my partner that the reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost never going to be the result of something on his machine, which has way more than enough firepower to handle it all at once.  It's because, somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the data coming to and going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or participants.  The same is true when the browsing experience in general slows down.  And there are times where the end you're trying to reach from wherever you are happens to be down entirely.  All of these things happen, both singly, and sometimes in combination.
 
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi

enes sarıbaş
 

Still, it is no match for cable or even 5g. The maximum speed with vdsl is 100 mbps, which is very rare, and 50 mb upload. Usually 50-70 mbps is the norm.

or

On 1/11/2021 6:59 AM, Cornelius wrote:
 
 
 
VDSL is the one which can offer higher speed than ADSL.
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 5:49 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi
 

That is simply incorrect.

ADSL, which is still alive and well, offers the worst speeds ever after satallite. I am pretty certain ADSL is the worst possible internet you can buy after satallite. The max speed over ADSL2+ is 24 mb down, and 1 mb up. And that assumes living right next to the cabinet and having best wiring. In practice,  the max speed is 12-16 mbps. I was stuck with ATT dsl because of an exclusive contract signed by the apartment complex, and even audio calls wern't relyable because regardless of the download speed, the upload was 1 mbps, which actually is 0.8 or so. And there are people who have it worse

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/what-using-atts-768kbps-dsl-is-like-in-2020-yes-its-awful/

 

 

On 1/11/2021 2:54 AM, g melconian wrote:

That  is strange even the better dsl speeds now a days should at least get 50 or better.  AT least that  is what iwas told. I am on cable through  comcast x finity and that they have just pushed the giga bit speeds in my neighborhood  and I really like it.spectrum with cable offers   200  that is what hey have been advertising lately, an then there is a 400 in the sspectrum  offering up which cost you about $90 or so and that  will get you  at least half of gigabit speed better then what you have.inquire about that and se if that will help you out .  I think that  all these dsl  copper wires are being phased out for fiber and 5g LTE connections going forward . 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:59 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed.

Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in your area. It will likely be faster.

 

 

On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg wrote:

Hi

I would not mide  to have such line speeds.  I Have only a 6MBS line speed and download  Is 600KBS and upload is 200KBS

Thanks

Enjoy

Timothy

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:26
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about that. Email me off list please Jarry. I wana see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@...

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Hogan
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:45 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up and down with the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a steady signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get 45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing picture with wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed test on my Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down  for the MB.

Jerry Hogan

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:

If you are using the internet then it doesn’t really matter if you use wired or wireless.

-
I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's very simply incorrect.

There are many situations (one of which was already described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich operating environment) that has the potential to have significant impacts on WiFi performance on heavy traffic channels (and older hardware isn't trying to seek out empty channels).  Ethernet never has this issue.

The above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to describe throughput is somewhat an exercise in futility.  I always use the example of either a series of pipes and hoses delivering water, where the fastest flow you will get in the whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction in that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have individuals who are significantly slower "somewhere in the middle, somewhere" and this is what limits the ultimate number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end where the water gets thrown.

I'm constantly trying to explain to my partner that the reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost never going to be the result of something on his machine, which has way more than enough firepower to handle it all at once.  It's because, somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the data coming to and going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or participants.  The same is true when the browsing experience in general slows down.  And there are times where the end you're trying to reach from wherever you are happens to be down entirely.  All of these things happen, both singly, and sometimes in combination.
 
--

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Journalism 101:  If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.

      ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)


laptop question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I've had this laptop since March, and I notice that the fan seems to run a lot,
which I assume means that the laptop gets overheated, any idea why this might be
happening? I'm running Windows 10 2004, the latest Jaws 2021, and office 365. My
laptop is a Lenovo think book 13s 20r9005vus

Look forward to any thoughts or help anyone can provide!!!
Madison


Re: Why does my shutdown menu always have an option to "update and restart?"

 

Hi,

Does restarting your computer help? What about switching between screen readers?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Powers
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:47 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Why does my shutdown menu always have an option to "update and restart?"

 

Brian,

 

I recently tried updating from 1909 to build 20h2 but had the same problem that I did last summer when trying to update to 2004 – couldn’t access start menu or Action Center, and likely other issues I had not yet found. I’m kind of leery about trying again to update to 20h2 but won’t know if I have this same experience unless I do the update but wonder if there is anything after the update that could fix this problem once and for all? the update itself that I recently tried went smoothly, no problems detected, but something in that update has caused the above problem. Is there anything I can do with the update process to keep the start menu & Action Centers functioning?

 

Thanks,

 

BP


Re: Why does my shutdown menu always have an option to "update and restart?"

g melconian
 

Maybe you have updates that have not yet been installed, that  has  happened when I have done a shut down in the past.what will hhappen tap on update and shut down. The updates will first install then  the PC will shut down.   


Re: Why does my shutdown menu always have an option to "update and restart?"

Bill Powers
 

Brian,

 

I recently tried updating from 1909 to build 20h2 but had the same problem that I did last summer when trying to update to 2004 – couldn’t access start menu or Action Center, and likely other issues I had not yet found. I’m kind of leery about trying again to update to 20h2 but won’t know if I have this same experience unless I do the update but wonder if there is anything after the update that could fix this problem once and for all? the update itself that I recently tried went smoothly, no problems detected, but something in that update has caused the above problem. Is there anything I can do with the update process to keep the start menu & Action Centers functioning?

 

Thanks,

 

BP


Re: New PC setup?

g melconian
 

Maybe they are trying to  get rid of the extra  ad ons  that  some of these consumer grade pc’s come with compared to the business grade or business class ones. I don’t know what the person has gotten. So I cant comment but that would be what I would be suspecting as these consumer grades,  tend to  bundle other  thing s with their Windows 10 pc installations. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell James
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 5:49 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] New PC setup?

 

Most of the Dell computers come with a recovery partition that will allow you to reinstall the original manufacturers installation of windows with all of the specific drivers

I don't understand the need for doing a clean windows install when you first get the computer maybe you can explain more


Re: to wifi or not to wifi

Jerry Hogan
 

I have google fiber in my area in San Antonio, here is my speed test result on my Dell mini tower 5070 using WiFi wireless  rader a ethernet connection and someone wanted my Email as well read below. Jerry

Jerryhogan5@...

Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 668.95, Your upload speed is 890.80, and your ping time took 4 milliseconds. Thank you for using Ookla Speedtest.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

Yes, and ATT is no longer activating new connections on ADSL. So, hopefully we will get that tech phazed out here.

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 4:59 AM Cornelius <mr.buta21@...> wrote:

 

 

 

VDSL is the one which can offer higher speed than ADSL.

From: enes sarıbaş

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 5:49 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

That is simply incorrect.

ADSL, which is still alive and well, offers the worst speeds ever after satallite. I am pretty certain ADSL is the worst possible internet you can buy after satallite. The max speed over ADSL2+ is 24 mb down, and 1 mb up. And that assumes living right next to the cabinet and having best wiring. In practice,  the max speed is 12-16 mbps. I was stuck with ATT dsl because of an exclusive contract signed by the apartment complex, and even audio calls wern't relyable because regardless of the download speed, the upload was 1 mbps, which actually is 0.8 or so. And there are people who have it worse

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/what-using-atts-768kbps-dsl-is-like-in-2020-yes-its-awful/

 

 

On 1/11/2021 2:54 AM, g melconian wrote:

That  is strange even the better dsl speeds now a days should at least get 50 or better.  AT least that  is what iwas told. I am on cable through  comcast x finity and that they have just pushed the giga bit speeds in my neighborhood  and I really like it.spectrum with cable offers   200  that is what hey have been advertising lately, an then there is a 400 in the sspectrum  offering up which cost you about $90 or so and that  will get you  at least half of gigabit speed better then what you have.inquire about that and se if that will help you out .  I think that  all these dsl  copper wires are being phased out for fiber and 5g LTE connections going forward . 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:59 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed.

Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in your area. It will likely be faster.

 

 

On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg wrote:

Hi

I would not mide  to have such line speeds.  I Have only a 6MBS line speed and download  Is 600KBS and upload is 200KBS

Thanks

Enjoy

Timothy

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:26
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about that. Email me off list please Jarry. I wana see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@...

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Hogan
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:45 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up and down with the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a steady signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get 45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing picture with wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed test on my Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down  for the MB.

Jerry Hogan

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:

If you are using the internet then it doesn’t really matter if you use wired or wireless.

-
I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's very simply incorrect.

There are many situations (one of which was already described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich operating environment) that has the potential to have significant impacts on WiFi performance on heavy traffic channels (and older hardware isn't trying to seek out empty channels).  Ethernet never has this issue.

The above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to describe throughput is somewhat an exercise in futility.  I always use the example of either a series of pipes and hoses delivering water, where the fastest flow you will get in the whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction in that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have individuals who are significantly slower "somewhere in the middle, somewhere" and this is what limits the ultimate number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end where the water gets thrown.

I'm constantly trying to explain to my partner that the reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost never going to be the result of something on his machine, which has way more than enough firepower to handle it all at once.  It's because, somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the data coming to and going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or participants.  The same is true when the browsing experience in general slows down.  And there are times where the end you're trying to reach from wherever you are happens to be down entirely.  All of these things happen, both singly, and sometimes in combination.
 
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Journalism 101:  If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.

      ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)



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Re: New PC setup?

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Clement,

           As Joseph has already noted, the firmware interface (UEFI/BIOS) does not have screen reader access and it's unlikely it ever will.  My instructions note that you need to change the boot order if you use the "completely clean install" instructions and there's no way to generically describe how that's done as it is specific to a given BIOS/UEFI used on a given motherboard.

           Now, the above being said, if you wanted to do the equivalent of a completely clean reinstall on a Windows 10 system that currently boots, you could use the instructions for Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file. These instructions explicitly tell you to make sure the "keep apps and files" option is chosen, which is what you'd want for a repair install or feature update.  But, at the point where you check this, you do have the option to keep nothing, which is what you'd want to do if you wanted a fresh install of the version of Windows 10 for the ISO file you've downloaded.  You could also use one of the built-in options to reset Windows 10, but I prefer the ISO file method as I know I've got everything necessary for the process to complete even if internet service is interrupted before I even kick it off.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Journalism 101:  If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.

      ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)


Re: New PC setup?

Clement Chou
 

Good to know. Thanks Joseph. I suppose this means I have to get
sighted help booting from the USB drive if I decide to go that route.?
This does seem a bit more involved than I thought, so I might wait
until I learn a bit more about how to do it. But I may do whatBrian
suggested and just manually remove the extra junk.

On 1/11/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
You need to wait until Windows Setup is loaded before starting Narrator, as
no screen reader (or for that matter, no Windows app) is compatible with the
firmware interface.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clement
Chou
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 8:53 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] New PC setup?

Thanks Brian. That was my thinking as well, to get rid of all the extra
drivers and bloatware I don't really want to have lying around.
But if that can be done through control pannel then I may take that approach
rather than reinstalling the whole thing from scratch as I'm not as
comfortable yet with working in a pre-installation environment.
I would like to learn, however. I'll check out the file you linked for sure!
The possibility of wiping everything and starting with a completely clean
slate before starting to use it also has a bit of apeal. What are your
thoughts on system imaging and tools for creating those and user backups?
I'm also curious as to where narrator starts working. When I press
f12 for the boot menu, can narrator be started there? Or do I have to wait
until after I've selected the boot media?

On 1/11/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:49 AM, Russell James wrote:


I don't understand the need for doing a clean windows install when
you first get the computer maybe you can explain more
-
First, let me note, I do not do this as standard practice. I'd rather
weed out the manufacturer supplied "optional software" (often
bloatware) on my own from Control Panel, Programs and Features, rather
than *Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media
Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb
Drive.* (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1XBakbeS4WYPN3-O5ET5HIQ
O_Qey-g3XK
)

That being said, there are many who do a completely clean reinstall of
Windows 10 immediately because it gives you the cleanest, most
"de-bloated,"
version of Windows 10 that's available. And given how good Windows 10
has become in having the correct drivers to pull from in The Great
Microsoft Driver Library in the Cloud because most manufacturers are
supplying them with same, the worries from the old days about driver
reinstalls are, for the most part, unnecessary.

It's really a matter of personal preference, and mine is not to do a
completely clean reinstall, while others prefer to do one. Neither is
wrong, and which is better is entirely a matter of perspective and
personal preference.

As for the manufacturer recovery partitions, for the most part they're
obsolete almost upon arrival. Once you've had a couple of Windows 10
Feature Updates, driver updates over time, lots of software
installations, etc., it makes no sense to go back to whatever was on
the computer when it was new. If one were to need to do a "nuke and
pave" at a much later point in time then a completely clean reinstall
with the install media for the current Windows 10 release version is the
only way to go.

That is but one of the reasons why having a backup plan that includes
a full system image as well as separate user data backup(s) should be
considered standard practice if you care anything about both your time and
your data.
It's so much easier to restore from a backup than to start from
scratch if something goes really wrong.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Journalism 101: *If someone says it’s raining and another person says
it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look
out the f**king window and find out which is true.*

~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)















Re: New PC setup?

 

Hi,
You need to wait until Windows Setup is loaded before starting Narrator, as no screen reader (or for that matter, no Windows app) is compatible with the firmware interface.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 8:53 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] New PC setup?

Thanks Brian. That was my thinking as well, to get rid of all the extra drivers and bloatware I don't really want to have lying around.
But if that can be done through control pannel then I may take that approach rather than reinstalling the whole thing from scratch as I'm not as comfortable yet with working in a pre-installation environment.
I would like to learn, however. I'll check out the file you linked for sure! The possibility of wiping everything and starting with a completely clean slate before starting to use it also has a bit of apeal. What are your thoughts on system imaging and tools for creating those and user backups?
I'm also curious as to where narrator starts working. When I press
f12 for the boot menu, can narrator be started there? Or do I have to wait until after I've selected the boot media?

On 1/11/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:49 AM, Russell James wrote:


I don't understand the need for doing a clean windows install when
you first get the computer maybe you can explain more
-
First, let me note, I do not do this as standard practice. I'd rather
weed out the manufacturer supplied "optional software" (often
bloatware) on my own from Control Panel, Programs and Features, rather
than *Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media
Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb
Drive.* (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1XBakbeS4WYPN3-O5ET5HIQ
O_Qey-g3XK
)

That being said, there are many who do a completely clean reinstall of
Windows 10 immediately because it gives you the cleanest, most "de-bloated,"
version of Windows 10 that's available. And given how good Windows 10
has become in having the correct drivers to pull from in The Great
Microsoft Driver Library in the Cloud because most manufacturers are
supplying them with same, the worries from the old days about driver
reinstalls are, for the most part, unnecessary.

It's really a matter of personal preference, and mine is not to do a
completely clean reinstall, while others prefer to do one. Neither is
wrong, and which is better is entirely a matter of perspective and
personal preference.

As for the manufacturer recovery partitions, for the most part they're
obsolete almost upon arrival. Once you've had a couple of Windows 10
Feature Updates, driver updates over time, lots of software
installations, etc., it makes no sense to go back to whatever was on
the computer when it was new. If one were to need to do a "nuke and
pave" at a much later point in time then a completely clean reinstall
with the install media for the current Windows 10 release version is the only way to go.

That is but one of the reasons why having a backup plan that includes
a full system image as well as separate user data backup(s) should be
considered standard practice if you care anything about both your time and your data.
It's so much easier to restore from a backup than to start from
scratch if something goes really wrong.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Journalism 101: *If someone says it’s raining and another person says
it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look
out the f**king window and find out which is true.*

~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)






Re: New PC setup?

Clement Chou
 

Thanks Brian. That was my thinking as well, to get rid of all the
extra drivers and bloatware I don't really want to have lying around.
But if that can be done through control pannel then I may take that
approach rather than reinstalling the whole thing from scratch as I'm
not as comfortable yet with working in a pre-installation environment.
I would like to learn, however. I'll check out the file you linked for
sure! The possibility of wiping everything and starting with a
completely clean slate before starting to use it also has a bit of
apeal. What are your thoughts on system imaging and tools for creating
those and user backups?
I'm also curious as to where narrator starts working. When I press
f12 for the boot menu, can narrator be started there? Or do I have to
wait until after I've selected the boot media?

On 1/11/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:49 AM, Russell James wrote:


I don't understand the need for doing a clean windows install when you
first get the computer maybe you can explain more
-
First, let me note, I do not do this as standard practice.  I'd rather weed
out the manufacturer supplied "optional software" (often bloatware) on my
own from Control Panel, Programs and Features, rather than *Doing a
Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to
Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive.* (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1XBakbeS4WYPN3-O5ET5HIQO_Qey-g3XK
)

That being said, there are many who do a completely clean reinstall of
Windows 10 immediately because it gives you the cleanest, most "de-bloated,"
version of Windows 10 that's available.  And given how good Windows 10 has
become in having the correct drivers to pull from in The Great Microsoft
Driver Library in the Cloud because most manufacturers are supplying them
with same, the worries from the old days about driver reinstalls are, for
the most part, unnecessary.

It's really a matter of personal preference, and mine is not to do a
completely clean reinstall, while others prefer to do one.  Neither is
wrong, and which is better is entirely a matter of perspective and personal
preference.

As for the manufacturer recovery partitions, for the most part they're
obsolete almost upon arrival.  Once you've had a couple of Windows 10
Feature Updates, driver updates over time, lots of software installations,
etc., it makes no sense to go back to whatever was on the computer when it
was new.  If one were to need to do a "nuke and pave" at a much later point
in time then a completely clean reinstall with the install media for the
current Windows 10 release version is the only way to go.

That is but one of the reasons why having a backup plan that includes a full
system image as well as separate user data backup(s) should be considered
standard practice if you care anything about both your time and your data.
It's so much easier to restore from a backup than to start from scratch if
something goes really wrong.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Journalism 101: *If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s
dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the
f**king window and find out which is true.*

~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)





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