Thanks Brian. That was my thinking as well, to get rid of all the extra drivers and bloatware I don't really want to have lying around. But if that can be done through control pannel then I may take that approach rather than reinstalling the whole thing from scratch as I'm not as comfortable yet with working in a pre-installation environment. I would like to learn, however. I'll check out the file you linked for sure! The possibility of wiping everything and starting with a completely clean slate before starting to use it also has a bit of apeal. What are your thoughts on system imaging and tools for creating those and user backups? I'm also curious as to where narrator starts working. When I press f12 for the boot menu, can narrator be started there? Or do I have to wait until after I've selected the boot media?
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On 1/11/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:49 AM, Russell James wrote:
I don't understand the need for doing a clean windows install when you first get the computer maybe you can explain more - First, let me note, I do not do this as standard practice. I'd rather weed out the manufacturer supplied "optional software" (often bloatware) on my own from Control Panel, Programs and Features, rather than *Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive.* ( https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1XBakbeS4WYPN3-O5ET5HIQO_Qey-g3XK )
That being said, there are many who do a completely clean reinstall of Windows 10 immediately because it gives you the cleanest, most "de-bloated," version of Windows 10 that's available. And given how good Windows 10 has become in having the correct drivers to pull from in The Great Microsoft Driver Library in the Cloud because most manufacturers are supplying them with same, the worries from the old days about driver reinstalls are, for the most part, unnecessary.
It's really a matter of personal preference, and mine is not to do a completely clean reinstall, while others prefer to do one. Neither is wrong, and which is better is entirely a matter of perspective and personal preference.
As for the manufacturer recovery partitions, for the most part they're obsolete almost upon arrival. Once you've had a couple of Windows 10 Feature Updates, driver updates over time, lots of software installations, etc., it makes no sense to go back to whatever was on the computer when it was new. If one were to need to do a "nuke and pave" at a much later point in time then a completely clean reinstall with the install media for the current Windows 10 release version is the only way to go.
That is but one of the reasons why having a backup plan that includes a full system image as well as separate user data backup(s) should be considered standard practice if you care anything about both your time and your data. It's so much easier to restore from a backup than to start from scratch if something goes really wrong. --
Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
Journalism 101: *If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.*
~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
Yes, and ATT is no longer activating new connections on ADSL. So, hopefully we will get that tech phazed out here.
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VDSL is the one which can offer higher speed than
ADSL.
From: enes
sarıbaş
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 5:49 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi
That is simply incorrect.
ADSL, which is still alive and well, offers the worst speeds ever after
satallite. I am pretty certain ADSL is the worst possible internet you can buy
after satallite. The max speed over ADSL2+ is 24 mb down, and 1 mb up. And that
assumes living right next to the cabinet and having best wiring. In
practice, the max speed is 12-16 mbps. I was stuck with ATT dsl because of
an exclusive contract signed by the apartment complex, and even audio calls
wern't relyable because regardless of the download speed, the upload was 1 mbps,
which actually is 0.8 or so. And there are people who have it worse
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/what-using-atts-768kbps-dsl-is-like-in-2020-yes-its-awful/
On 1/11/2021 2:54 AM, g melconian wrote:
That is strange even the better dsl speeds now a days
should at least get 50 or better. AT least that is what iwas told.
I am on cable through comcast x finity and that they have just pushed
the giga bit speeds in my neighborhood and I really like it.spectrum
with cable offers 200 that is what hey have been advertising
lately, an then there is a 400 in the sspectrum offering up which cost
you about $90 or so and that will get you at least half of gigabit
speed better then what you have.inquire about that and se if that will help
you out . I think that all these dsl copper wires are being
phased out for fiber and 5g LTE connections going forward .
From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of
enes saribas Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:59
PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject:
Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi
That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed.
Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in your area. It
will likely be faster.
On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg
wrote:
Hi
I would not mide to have such line speeds. I
Have only a 6MBS line speed and download Is 600KBS and upload is
200KBS
Thanks
Enjoy
Timothy
From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:26 To:
win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re:
[win10] to wifi or not to wifi
Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about that. Email me
off list please Jarry. I wana see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@...
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jerry Hogan Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:45
PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re:
[win10] to wifi or not to wifi
I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up and down with
the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a
steady signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get
45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do
not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing picture with
wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed
test on my Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down for the
MB.
Jerry Hogan
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:26
AM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re:
[win10] to wifi or not to wifi
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean Murphy
wrote:
If you are using the internet then it doesn’t really
matter if you use wired or wireless.
- I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's
very simply incorrect.
There are many situations (one of which was
already described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich operating
environment) that has the potential to have significant impacts on WiFi
performance on heavy traffic channels (and older hardware isn't trying to
seek out empty channels). Ethernet never has this issue.
The
above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to describe throughput is
somewhat an exercise in futility. I always use the example of either a
series of pipes and hoses delivering water, where the fastest flow you will
get in the whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction in
that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have individuals who are
significantly slower "somewhere in the middle, somewhere" and this is what
limits the ultimate number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end
where the water gets thrown.
I'm constantly trying to explain to my
partner that the reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost
never going to be the result of something on his machine, which has way more
than enough firepower to handle it all at once. It's because,
somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the
data coming to and going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or
participants. The same is true when the browsing experience in general
slows down. And there are times where the end you're trying to reach
from wherever you are happens to be down entirely. All of these things
happen, both singly, and sometimes in combination. --
Brian
- Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
Journalism
101: If
someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your
job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and
find out which is true.
~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:49 AM, Russell James wrote:
I don't understand the need for doing a clean windows install when you first get the computer maybe you can explain more
- First, let me note, I do not do this as standard practice. I'd rather weed out the manufacturer supplied "optional software" (often bloatware) on my own from Control Panel, Programs and Features, rather than Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive.
That being said, there are many who do a completely clean reinstall of Windows 10 immediately because it gives you the cleanest, most "de-bloated," version of Windows 10 that's available. And given how good Windows 10 has become in having the correct drivers to pull from in The Great Microsoft Driver Library in the Cloud because most manufacturers are supplying them with same, the worries from the old days about driver reinstalls are, for the most part, unnecessary. It's really a matter of personal preference, and mine is not to do a completely clean reinstall, while others prefer to do one. Neither is wrong, and which is better is entirely a matter of perspective and personal preference. As for the manufacturer recovery partitions, for the most part they're obsolete almost upon arrival. Once you've had a couple of Windows 10 Feature Updates, driver updates over time, lots of software installations, etc., it makes no sense to go back to whatever was on the computer when it was new. If one were to need to do a "nuke and pave" at a much later point in time then a completely clean reinstall with the install media for the current Windows 10 release version is the only way to go. That is but one of the reasons why having a backup plan that includes a full system image as well as separate user data backup(s) should be considered standard practice if you care anything about both your time and your data. It's so much easier to restore from a backup than to start from scratch if something goes really wrong. --
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.
~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Ah I thought you were gona go Aurora. But any who. Sure well I was going to say once all is installed and setup I'd go to the Dell support site grab once it detects it your service tag and express code and make notes of them. Especially the service tag it's the easier 1. Download all drivers and so on. As to the cleen install for the person that asked why do it. Well to each his own. But here's why. Some and let me stress that some would rather clean up the PC and just have it as just a Windows pure PC. Trouble with this is sure you get rid of the trial of Macaffy sure you get rid of what ever else in this case Dell may have installed there. But oops, say bie bie to to the Siberlink software for your DVD writer to play DVDs or BDs if you got it with a BD writer as I did. Point is you choose. But there are things configurations and other reasons I would not personally do that. Again as I said before to each his own. Another thing I'd do if you were to adjust the sleep plan for instance, is make notes of the original settings. Now I know most hate Windows Media Player. I use it because of SRS Wow. So I made notes of the original slider settings for that too. As for the recovery partition. True it's there but Dell to make you spend an extra 20 bucks doesn't as I'm sure you've noticed give you your Win 10 DVD. You'd need it to use that partition me thinks. Brian if you've delt with a new Dell starting from 2014 please let me know if I'm wrong here but I remember this being the case with the Inspiron 3847 tower I replaced with the XPS. Other than that I'd just watch your self where you save stuff. Just remember to where you can choose the data drive. Or when you download things if it asks you where you want to save choose the Data drive where possible again. If you use ITunes relocate your library to that data drive if you want. Remember that's where things get put away. That's that for now. If I think of other stuff I'll let ya know but I think this is where I'd start.
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-----Original Message----- From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 3:01 AM To: win10 <win10@win10.groups.io> Subject: [win10] New PC setup?
Hi all. I just got my new Del XPS 8940 gaming desktop today, and am going to set it up tomorrow. IS there anything I should be careful to do, or not to do? I haven't set up a new pc in years, so any help is appreciated. I've also been told that a smart thing to do might be to immediately do a clean windows install before really doing anything with it, but I also have no idea how to really go about doing that. Is the whole process for both set up and clean install accessible using narrator if I use the headset jack which I assume will work without me having to prompt it? I would just hate to accidentally lose sound in the middle of it with no sighted assistance around to help. Thanks! And any other tips I didn't think of to ask about are welcome too!
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Most of the Dell computers come with a recovery partition that will allow you to reinstall the original manufacturers installation of windows with all of the specific drivers
I don't understand the need for doing a clean windows install when you first get the computer maybe you can explain more
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Re: removing a password on local account?
You should still be able to remove the password via settings, Home or Pro version The netplwiz dialog has changed but still has the advanced tab.
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-----Original Message----- From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blaster Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 6:53 PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] removing a password on local account? Could this be an option that only the Professional Windows 10 has and the Home version doesn't? Take care, Blaster On 1/10/21, Kevin Cussick via groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote: same here and using nvda windows10 home 64bit.
On 10/01/2021 03:41, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Adam. I just ran netplwiz, and the check box is still there on my system, running JAWS 2021, latest update, and Microsoft Windows
Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685).
Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
*From:*win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *adam morris *Sent:* Saturday, January 9, 2021 7:15 PM *To:* win10 *Subject:* [win10] removing a password on local account?
Hi all, I have the below instructions for removing a password for a local account. I don't see the checkbox to uncheck use a password. I just hear the user account, add and properties which doesn't give the info listed below. Think they may have changed things in the latest version of 10.
Open Run command. In the Run dialog box, type Netplwiz press Enter. You will be prompted with the User Accounts dialog, select your user account first and then uncheck the option labelled Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer at the top. Click Apply button to see Automatically sign in box. On the "Automatically sign in box" confirm your credentials and then click OK. Restart the computer and check. be absolutely certain that you have entered the correct password for the account in question. If you want to be really safe you could create a second local account before doing this so that you have a backup way to get into the system should you fatFinger your password. There is also a good article outlining this option and a registry hack (which I don't recommend) on tenforums entitled, Sign in User Account Automatically at Windows 10 Startup.
You can totally remove the pin/password, which I really don't advise doing.
To do that, go to control panel, then users.
The better method, for security sake in my opinion is to keep the password, but just have it log you on automatically.
To do this, you can set it up through the auto logon dialog. To get there, go to the run dialog with windows+R, then type in
control userpasswords2
Then hit enter.
This dialog should be quite self explanitory, but if you need help, let us know. Be very very very careful when putting in your password here for the system to log you on. If you do this wrong, and you're the only user account on the system, you'll lock yourself out forever more unless you use hacking tools to get yourself back in, but I won't go there for legality reasons. The reason is, it'll be trying to put that mistyped password in, and rejecting it, thereby not giving you a chance to do anything more.
I have a friend who had Windows 7, and he did this very thing, and oh! God, what a mess it was! We got him back in, but if I told you how, I'd have to kil ya. LOL!
The point is, be careful. As long as you are so though, you'll be just fine, and it'll do exactly what you need it to do.
--
Adam Morris
Email, iMessage & FaceTime
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
VDSL is the one which can offer higher speed than
ADSL.
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From: enes
sarıbaş
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 5:49 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi
That is simply incorrect.
ADSL, which is still alive and well, offers the worst speeds ever after
satallite. I am pretty certain ADSL is the worst possible internet you can buy
after satallite. The max speed over ADSL2+ is 24 mb down, and 1 mb up. And that
assumes living right next to the cabinet and having best wiring. In
practice, the max speed is 12-16 mbps. I was stuck with ATT dsl because of
an exclusive contract signed by the apartment complex, and even audio calls
wern't relyable because regardless of the download speed, the upload was 1 mbps,
which actually is 0.8 or so. And there are people who have it worse
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/what-using-atts-768kbps-dsl-is-like-in-2020-yes-its-awful/
On 1/11/2021 2:54 AM, g melconian wrote:
That is strange even the better dsl speeds now a days
should at least get 50 or better. AT least that is what iwas told.
I am on cable through comcast x finity and that they have just pushed
the giga bit speeds in my neighborhood and I really like it.spectrum
with cable offers 200 that is what hey have been advertising
lately, an then there is a 400 in the sspectrum offering up which cost
you about $90 or so and that will get you at least half of gigabit
speed better then what you have.inquire about that and se if that will help
you out . I think that all these dsl copper wires are being
phased out for fiber and 5g LTE connections going forward .
That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed.
Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in your area. It
will likely be faster.
On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg
wrote:
Hi
I would not mide to have such line speeds. I
Have only a 6MBS line speed and download Is 600KBS and upload is
200KBS
Thanks
Enjoy
Timothy
From: win10@win10.groups.io mailto:win10@win10.groups.io On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:26 To:
win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re:
[win10] to wifi or not to wifi
Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about that. Email me
off list please Jarry. I wana see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@...
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jerry Hogan Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:45
PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re:
[win10] to wifi or not to wifi
I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up and down with
the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a
steady signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get
45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do
not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing picture with
wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed
test on my Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down for the
MB.
Jerry Hogan
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:26
AM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re:
[win10] to wifi or not to wifi
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean Murphy
wrote:
If you are using the internet then it doesn’t really
matter if you use wired or wireless.
- I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's
very simply incorrect.
There are many situations (one of which was
already described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich operating
environment) that has the potential to have significant impacts on WiFi
performance on heavy traffic channels (and older hardware isn't trying to
seek out empty channels). Ethernet never has this issue.
The
above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to describe throughput is
somewhat an exercise in futility. I always use the example of either a
series of pipes and hoses delivering water, where the fastest flow you will
get in the whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction in
that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have individuals who are
significantly slower "somewhere in the middle, somewhere" and this is what
limits the ultimate number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end
where the water gets thrown.
I'm constantly trying to explain to my
partner that the reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost
never going to be the result of something on his machine, which has way more
than enough firepower to handle it all at once. It's because,
somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the
data coming to and going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or
participants. The same is true when the browsing experience in general
slows down. And there are times where the end you're trying to reach
from wherever you are happens to be down entirely. All of these things
happen, both singly, and sometimes in combination. --
Brian
- Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
Journalism
101: If
someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your
job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and
find out which is true.
~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
That is simply incorrect.
ADSL, which is still alive and well, offers the worst speeds ever
after satallite. I am pretty certain ADSL is the worst possible
internet you can buy after satallite. The max speed over ADSL2+ is
24 mb down, and 1 mb up. And that assumes living right next to the
cabinet and having best wiring. In practice, the max speed is
12-16 mbps. I was stuck with ATT dsl because of an exclusive
contract signed by the apartment complex, and even audio calls
wern't relyable because regardless of the download speed, the
upload was 1 mbps, which actually is 0.8 or so. And there are
people who have it worse
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/what-using-atts-768kbps-dsl-is-like-in-2020-yes-its-awful/
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On 1/11/2021 2:54 AM, g melconian
wrote:
That is strange even the better dsl speeds
now a days should at least get 50 or better. AT least that
is what iwas told. I am on cable through comcast x finity
and that they have just pushed the giga bit speeds in my
neighborhood and I really like it.spectrum with cable offers
200 that is what hey have been advertising lately, an then
there is a 400 in the sspectrum offering up which cost you
about $90 or so and that will get you at least half of
gigabit speed better then what you have.inquire about that and
se if that will help you out . I think that all these dsl
copper wires are being phased out for fiber and 5g LTE
connections going forward .
That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed.
Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in
your area. It will likely be faster.
On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg
wrote:
Hi
I would not mide to have such line
speeds. I Have only a 6MBS line speed and download Is
600KBS and upload is 200KBS
Thanks
Enjoy
Timothy
Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about
that. Email me off list please Jarry. I wana see about
getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@...
I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up
and down with the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5
cable or better will give you a steady signal rather wirless
signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get 45 channel and
have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do
not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing
picture with wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB
up and down, I did a speed test on my Eero mess syster and I
have 600 to 900 up and down for the MB.
Jerry Hogan
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean
Murphy wrote:
If you are using the internet then it
doesn’t really matter if you use wired or wireless.
-
I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's very
simply incorrect.
There are many situations (one of which was already
described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich
operating environment) that has the potential to have
significant impacts on WiFi performance on heavy traffic
channels (and older hardware isn't trying to seek out empty
channels). Ethernet never has this issue.
The above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to
describe throughput is somewhat an exercise in futility. I
always use the example of either a series of pipes and hoses
delivering water, where the fastest flow you will get in the
whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction
in that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have
individuals who are significantly slower "somewhere in the
middle, somewhere" and this is what limits the ultimate
number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end
where the water gets thrown.
I'm constantly trying to explain to my partner that the
reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost
never going to be the result of something on his machine,
which has way more than enough firepower to handle it all at
once. It's because, somewhere out there in cyberspace,
there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the data coming to and
going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or
participants. The same is true when the browsing experience
in general slows down. And there are times where the end
you're trying to reach from wherever you are happens to be
down entirely. All of these things happen, both singly, and
sometimes in combination.
--
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version
20H2, Build 19042
Journalism 101: If
someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s
dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your
job to look out the f**king window and find out which
is true.
~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
Hi. Although I usually have pretty good luck with wifi, I will used a wired connection when it is available. My experience has been that wired connections are more stable. Chris Judge 
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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of g melconian Sent: January 10, 2021 3:04 PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi I’m in total agreement with Bryan on this one.that is why we just ran a bunch of cat 7 wire from one end of the house to the othe end o fthe house, as we just got gigabit from comcast x finity and so that is why we figure that the wifi would not be able to handle those giga bit speeds and so that is why we just ran a bunch of cat 7 wire through the attic and then split the cat 7 with a t connection and a switch hub and now we have the best of both worlds. If we need to have HD 4k tv watching on a high band width they are hard wired where as all the smart speakers an that sort of stuf that don’t need that much band width are on wifi, but our ubiquity amplify router now supports wifi 6 so that is the channel that the wifi is on and that way there is no one on the street that has wifi 6 and that way we don’t have any interfereance for the time being . On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:44 PM, Jerry Hogan wrote: I disagree
- I have no idea with what, as what you've said is just echoes precisely the objection I raised. There are plenty of times where ethernet connections will be faster and more stable than a WiFi connection even could be.
For those who are in a "non-mobile" situation where whatever device they're using doesn't move, and the option to use ethernet exists, it's worth using it rather than WiFi, even if WiFi is an option. There are times where even a stationary machine is in a part of the house/building where running cable is just not going to happen, and when that's the case WiFi is a godsend. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
That is strange even the better dsl speeds now a days should at least get 50 or better. AT least that is what iwas told. I am on cable through comcast x finity and that they have just pushed the giga bit speeds in my neighborhood and I really like it.spectrum with cable offers 200 that is what hey have been advertising lately, an then there is a 400 in the sspectrum offering up which cost you about $90 or so and that will get you at least half of gigabit speed better then what you have.inquire about that and se if that will help you out . I think that all these dsl copper wires are being phased out for fiber and 5g LTE connections going forward .
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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:59 PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed. Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in your area. It will likely be faster. On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg wrote: Hi I would not mide to have such line speeds. I Have only a 6MBS line speed and download Is 600KBS and upload is 200KBS Thanks Enjoy Timothy Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about that. Email me off list please Jarry. I wana see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@... I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up and down with the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a steady signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get 45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing picture with wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed test on my Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down for the MB. Jerry Hogan On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: If you are using the internet then it doesn’t really matter if you use wired or wireless.
- I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's very simply incorrect.
There are many situations (one of which was already described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich operating environment) that has the potential to have significant impacts on WiFi performance on heavy traffic channels (and older hardware isn't trying to seek out empty channels). Ethernet never has this issue.
The above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to describe throughput is somewhat an exercise in futility. I always use the example of either a series of pipes and hoses delivering water, where the fastest flow you will get in the whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction in that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have individuals who are significantly slower "somewhere in the middle, somewhere" and this is what limits the ultimate number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end where the water gets thrown.
I'm constantly trying to explain to my partner that the reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost never going to be the result of something on his machine, which has way more than enough firepower to handle it all at once. It's because, somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the data coming to and going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or participants. The same is true when the browsing experience in general slows down. And there are times where the end you're trying to reach from wherever you are happens to be down entirely. All of these things happen, both singly, and sometimes in combination. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Hi all. I just got my new Del XPS 8940 gaming desktop today, and am going to set it up tomorrow. IS there anything I should be careful to do, or not to do? I haven't set up a new pc in years, so any help is appreciated. I've also been told that a smart thing to do might be to immediately do a clean windows install before really doing anything with it, but I also have no idea how to really go about doing that. Is the whole process for both set up and clean install accessible using narrator if I use the headset jack which I assume will work without me having to prompt it? I would just hate to accidentally lose sound in the middle of it with no sighted assistance around to help. Thanks! And any other tips I didn't think of to ask about are welcome too!
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
That is dsl, and absolutely horrific speed.
Look into signing up for 4g/lte home internet if available in
your area. It will likely be faster.
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On 1/10/2021 10:58 PM, Timothy VD Berg
wrote:
Hi
I
would not mide to have such line speeds. I Have only a
6MBS line speed and download Is 600KBS and upload is 200KBS
Thanks
Enjoy
Timothy
Wow Google Fiber? I wana
hear more about that. Email me off list please Jarry. I wana
see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@...
I disagree, WiFi
wireless is going to up and down with the signal and using a
Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a steady
signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box
she get 45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not
lose no signal and I do not have to put in a password for
her box, she was losing picture with wirless, but now I have
Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed test on my
Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down for the
MB.
Jerry Hogan
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at
12:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
If you are using the
internet then it doesn’t really matter if you use wired or
wireless.
-
I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's very
simply incorrect.
There are many situations (one of which was already
described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich
operating environment) that has the potential to have
significant impacts on WiFi performance on heavy traffic
channels (and older hardware isn't trying to seek out empty
channels). Ethernet never has this issue.
The above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to
describe throughput is somewhat an exercise in futility. I
always use the example of either a series of pipes and hoses
delivering water, where the fastest flow you will get in the
whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction
in that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have
individuals who are significantly slower "somewhere in the
middle, somewhere" and this is what limits the ultimate
number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end
where the water gets thrown.
I'm constantly trying to explain to my partner that the
reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost
never going to be the result of something on his machine,
which has way more than enough firepower to handle it all at
once. It's because, somewhere out there in cyberspace,
there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the data coming to and
going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or
participants. The same is true when the browsing experience
in general slows down. And there are times where the end
you're trying to reach from wherever you are happens to be
down entirely. All of these things happen, both singly, and
sometimes in combination.
--
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit,
Version 20H2, Build 19042
Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another
person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them
both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and
find out which is true.
~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
Hi I would not mide to have such line speeds. I Have only a 6MBS line speed and download Is 600KBS and upload is 200KBS Thanks Enjoy Timothy
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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:26 To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi Wow Google Fiber? I wana hear more about that. Email me off list please Jarry. I wana see about getting it. Thanks. hamitcampos@... I disagree, WiFi wireless is going to up and down with the signal and using a Ethernet with a cat5 cable or better will give you a steady signal rather wirless signal, my wife streaming Romania box she get 45 channel and have the Ethernet cable she does not lose no signal and I do not have to put in a password for her box, she was losing picture with wirless, but now I have Google Fiber with 1GB up and down, I did a speed test on my Eero mess syster and I have 600 to 900 up and down for the MB. Jerry Hogan On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: If you are using the internet then it doesn’t really matter if you use wired or wireless.
- I'm sorry, but as an unqualified statement that's very simply incorrect.
There are many situations (one of which was already described, the presence of a multi-WiFi network rich operating environment) that has the potential to have significant impacts on WiFi performance on heavy traffic channels (and older hardware isn't trying to seek out empty channels). Ethernet never has this issue.
The above being said, I absolutely agree that trying to describe throughput is somewhat an exercise in futility. I always use the example of either a series of pipes and hoses delivering water, where the fastest flow you will get in the whole collection is determined by the narrowest constriction in that series, or of a bucket brigade where you have individuals who are significantly slower "somewhere in the middle, somewhere" and this is what limits the ultimate number of buckets you get, and at what speed, on the end where the water gets thrown.
I'm constantly trying to explain to my partner that the reason that Zoom, for instance, is slow and flaky is almost never going to be the result of something on his machine, which has way more than enough firepower to handle it all at once. It's because, somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's a hitch in the gitty-up of the data coming to and going from his computer to the meeting hub and/or participants. The same is true when the browsing experience in general slows down. And there are times where the end you're trying to reach from wherever you are happens to be down entirely. All of these things happen, both singly, and sometimes in combination. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: how to chrome cast from ms edge in windows 10
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Hamit, Pretty much. There is a sort of isolated casting tab/menu that comes up that will allow you to pick the device to cast to, which may be the only one available. The first time I tried it after everything was there it took a few moments longer than I expected for it to find my Chromecast device. Were you to cast, the actual cast control button then appears in the controls on the browser itself, to the right of the address box. --
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.
~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: removing a password on local account?
Could this be an option that only the Professional Windows 10 has and the Home version doesn't? Take care, Blaster On 1/10/21, Kevin Cussick via groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote: same here and using nvda windows10 home 64bit.
On 10/01/2021 03:41, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Adam. I just ran netplwiz, and the check box is still there on my system, running JAWS 2021, latest update, and Microsoft Windows
Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685).
Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
*From:*win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *adam morris *Sent:* Saturday, January 9, 2021 7:15 PM *To:* win10 *Subject:* [win10] removing a password on local account?
Hi all, I have the below instructions for removing a password for a local account. I don't see the checkbox to uncheck use a password. I just hear the user account, add and properties which doesn't give the info listed below. Think they may have changed things in the latest version of 10.
Open Run command. In the Run dialog box, type Netplwiz press Enter. You will be prompted with the User Accounts dialog, select your user account first and then uncheck the option labelled Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer at the top. Click Apply button to see Automatically sign in box. On the "Automatically sign in box" confirm your credentials and then click OK. Restart the computer and check. be absolutely certain that you have entered the correct password for the account in question. If you want to be really safe you could create a second local account before doing this so that you have a backup way to get into the system should you fatFinger your password. There is also a good article outlining this option and a registry hack (which I don't recommend) on tenforums entitled, Sign in User Account Automatically at Windows 10 Startup.
You can totally remove the pin/password, which I really don't advise doing.
To do that, go to control panel, then users.
The better method, for security sake in my opinion is to keep the password, but just have it log you on automatically.
To do this, you can set it up through the auto logon dialog. To get there, go to the run dialog with windows+R, then type in
control userpasswords2
Then hit enter.
This dialog should be quite self explanitory, but if you need help, let us know. Be very very very careful when putting in your password here for the system to log you on. If you do this wrong, and you're the only user account on the system, you'll lock yourself out forever more unless you use hacking tools to get yourself back in, but I won't go there for legality reasons. The reason is, it'll be trying to put that mistyped password in, and rejecting it, thereby not giving you a chance to do anything more.
I have a friend who had Windows 7, and he did this very thing, and oh! God, what a mess it was! We got him back in, but if I told you how, I'd have to kil ya. LOL!
The point is, be careful. As long as you are so though, you'll be just fine, and it'll do exactly what you need it to do.
--
Adam Morris
Email, iMessage & FaceTime
adam@damorris.com <mailto:adam@damorris.com>
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
Good and if it’s AC you’re using that’s apparently according to WIFI AC marketing how it should be.
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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:40 PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] to wifi or not to wifi To be clear, WiFi 6 does not use different channels than WiFi 5. WiFi 6E will, but those routers aren't available yet. So, if you have WiFi 6, you will see pretty good speeds, I can get 850 megabits plus, but that requires me actively managing which channels I am using, increasing my bandwidth, making sure there is no radar nearby stealing the channels I choose to use most of the time, etc. Routers with default settings aren't actually that good at managing connections, but WiFi can work great depending on how you manage it. Still not as good as wired, but with 850+ I don't notice the difference. Moreover, when running speedtests, ping times are no different wireless as they are wired, for me anyway. This may depend on the connection and the quality of router used, but for me, I see no difference. I’m in total agreement with Bryan on this one.that is why we just ran a bunch of cat 7 wire from one end of the house to the othe end o fthe house, as we just got gigabit from comcast x finity and so that is why we figure that the wifi would not be able to handle those giga bit speeds and so that is why we just ran a bunch of cat 7 wire through the attic and then split the cat 7 with a t connection and a switch hub and now we have the best of both worlds. If we need to have HD 4k tv watching on a high band width they are hard wired where as all the smart speakers an that sort of stuf that don’t need that much band width are on wifi, but our ubiquity amplify router now supports wifi 6 so that is the channel that the wifi is on and that way there is no one on the street that has wifi 6 and that way we don’t have any interfereance for the time being . On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:44 PM, Jerry Hogan wrote: I disagree
- I have no idea with what, as what you've said is just echoes precisely the objection I raised. There are plenty of times where ethernet connections will be faster and more stable than a WiFi connection even could be.
For those who are in a "non-mobile" situation where whatever device they're using doesn't move, and the option to use ethernet exists, it's worth using it rather than WiFi, even if WiFi is an option. There are times where even a stationary machine is in a part of the house/building where running cable is just not going to happen, and when that's the case WiFi is a godsend. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: how to chrome cast from ms edge in windows 10
Ah I wandered why it said baking. That’s okay I did what you suggested by the way and now I guess the addon is installed. So now I guess were I to wana cast something I go back into that menu and go to that cast menu and now an actual menu with our TV should come up now? Because the YouTube page still doesn’t have the cast button like in Chrome.
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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:39 PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] how to chrome cast from ms edge in windows 10 That "baking" was supposed to be, 'Hamit." There are problems with using mobile devices and autocorrect! -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: how to chrome cast from ms edge in windows 10
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
That "baking" was supposed to be, 'Hamit." There are problems with using mobile devices and autocorrect! --
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true.
~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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Re: to wifi or not to wifi
Hello,
To be clear, WiFi 6 does not use different channels than WiFi 5. WiFi 6E will, but those routers aren't available yet. So, if you have WiFi 6, you will see pretty good speeds, I can get 850 megabits plus, but that requires me actively managing which channels I am using, increasing my bandwidth, making sure there is no radar nearby stealing the channels I choose to use most of the time, etc. Routers with default settings aren't actually that good at managing connections, but WiFi can work great depending on how you manage it. Still not as good as wired, but with 850+ I don't notice the difference. Moreover, when running speedtests, ping times are no different wireless as they are wired, for me anyway. This may depend on the connection and the quality of router used, but for me, I see no difference.
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I’m in total agreement with Bryan on this one.that is why we just ran a bunch of cat 7 wire from one end of the house to the othe end o fthe house, as we just got gigabit from comcast x finity and so that is why we figure that the wifi would not be able to handle those giga bit speeds and so that is why we just ran a bunch of cat 7 wire through the attic and then split the cat 7 with a t connection and a switch hub and now we have the best of both worlds. If we need to have HD 4k tv watching on a high band width they are hard wired where as all the smart speakers an that sort of stuf that don’t need that much band width are on wifi, but our ubiquity amplify router now supports wifi 6 so that is the channel that the wifi is on and that way there is no one on the street that has wifi 6 and that way we don’t have any interfereance for the time being . On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:44 PM, Jerry Hogan wrote: I disagree
- I have no idea with what, as what you've said is just echoes precisely the objection I raised. There are plenty of times where ethernet connections will be faster and more stable than a WiFi connection even could be.
For those who are in a "non-mobile" situation where whatever device they're using doesn't move, and the option to use ethernet exists, it's worth using it rather than WiFi, even if WiFi is an option. There are times where even a stationary machine is in a part of the house/building where running cable is just not going to happen, and when that's the case WiFi is a godsend. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
-- Best,
Nimer Jaber
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Thank you, and have a great day!
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Re: removing a password on local account?
same here and using nvda windows10 home 64bit.
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On 10/01/2021 03:41, Bill White wrote: Hi, Adam. I just ran netplwiz, and the check box is still there on my system, running JAWS 2021, latest update, and Microsoft Windows Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685). Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com *From:*win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *adam morris *Sent:* Saturday, January 9, 2021 7:15 PM *To:* win10 *Subject:* [win10] removing a password on local account? Hi all, I have the below instructions for removing a password for a local account. I don't see the checkbox to uncheck use a password. I just hear the user account, add and properties which doesn't give the info listed below. Think they may have changed things in the latest version of 10. Open Run command. In the Run dialog box, type Netplwiz press Enter. You will be prompted with the User Accounts dialog, select your user account first and then uncheck the option labelled Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer at the top. Click Apply button to see Automatically sign in box. On the "Automatically sign in box" confirm your credentials and then click OK. Restart the computer and check. be absolutely certain that you have entered the correct password for the account in question. If you want to be really safe you could create a second local account before doing this so that you have a backup way to get into the system should you fatFinger your password. There is also a good article outlining this option and a registry hack (which I don't recommend) on tenforums entitled, Sign in User Account Automatically at Windows 10 Startup. You can totally remove the pin/password, which I really don't advise doing. To do that, go to control panel, then users. The better method, for security sake in my opinion is to keep the password, but just have it log you on automatically. To do this, you can set it up through the auto logon dialog. To get there, go to the run dialog with windows+R, then type in control userpasswords2 Then hit enter. This dialog should be quite self explanitory, but if you need help, let us know. Be very very very careful when putting in your password here for the system to log you on. If you do this wrong, and you're the only user account on the system, you'll lock yourself out forever more unless you use hacking tools to get yourself back in, but I won't go there for legality reasons. The reason is, it'll be trying to put that mistyped password in, and rejecting it, thereby not giving you a chance to do anything more. I have a friend who had Windows 7, and he did this very thing, and oh! God, what a mess it was! We got him back in, but if I told you how, I'd have to kil ya. LOL! The point is, be careful. As long as you are so though, you'll be just fine, and it'll do exactly what you need it to do. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime adam@damorris.com <mailto:adam@damorris.com>
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