Date   

Re: virus check.

Jason White
 

From Microsoft PowerShell (invoked with Windows-X, I), run the following command:

start-mpscan

 

This will run a quick virus scan of the system.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2020 at 11:00
To: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [win10] virus check.

Use microsoft security. It is really really good. Google for how to do this or search this group.

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how to run a virus scan in windows10?.


touch interaction

Don H
 

Having been paying for SMA over the past several years I am trying my best to learn how to use Jaws as a backup to NVDA. Having been using NVDA for the past several years. In NVDA there is a setting to turn on and off touch interaction. I am looking for the same ability in Jaws 2021. Does Jaws have this ability to turn touch interaction on and off?
Thanks


Re: Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

William
 

Hi Luke

Thanks for your explanation

Dell recently proposed to replace a ssd for me and do a clean install for me to test if the ram problem is gone.

Well, I hope the ram problem can be fixed but... who knows



luke scholey via groups.io 於 24/11/2020 20:01 寫道:

Hi

The actual process itself isn’t at fault here. The isolation process is in effect just being used wrong by the realtech audio driver. So the driver is causing the process to use excessive ram, which will be eating into virtual as well thus giving you a high ram usage report.

The dell support are not wrong at all, but they don’t know the bigger picture of this particular problem. Changing the driver should fix it.

Kind regards
Luke

On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:08, William Wong <sine.kazurin@gmail.com> wrote:

The reason why the support instruct me to do so is I send him an abnormal ram report, which my system take up 7.xGB of ram, and the Windows graph isolation take up the first of the ram usage.

Actually the ram usage of this process is only around 200 mb which should not be the cause of the ram usage, but the support still instruct me to do so. I wonder if he is really a technical expert.


Hamit Campos 於 24/11/2020 2:16 寫道:
Ah wow okay then Luke may indeed be right. Let's see here what is this graph icelation the Dell person is telling you to shut down anyways? What does that do I mean. On a similar note though as a little tip you all know you can check the disable all inhancements box per sound device right? I know it's tempting to do especially with the gimics Dell is now putting on the soundcards. How ever and this I discovered with my Onkyo TX-SR 373 AVR don't do it when using 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound. I did it once just as my hot neighbor Cristal says just for the hell of it to get the direct signal and yes it shuts down all the gimmics but also say bie bie to the surround sound itself. So it seems Windows considers surround sound an inhansement not a actual channel count. That is strange and I'd like to report this to Microsoft so they could change it especially again with Dell adding all kinds of strange effects to the audio. Note not even the HDMI audio is cleen. Not with my XPS at least. Sye Dell has truly killed the meaning of the XPS. Sye Oh well.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:56 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Yes, but I see that Win10 can automatically detect your needed drivers and download it for you through update in setting

Hamit Campos 於 22/11/2020 1:06 寫道:
Ah then if those aren't paired yet pare them and you can use them in place of the Dell audio. As to Luke's point. I don't know maybe he's right now but when I refreshed my 3847 tower I then had to re-install the audio drivers. Good thing I had saved them because that tower's page is now gone.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

bluetooth things?

I do have some wirelessbluetooth speaker.Hamit Campos 於 21/11/2020
9:56
寫道:

Do you have at least something like 1 of the Olympus DM recorders? Or any USB or Blu-Tooth thing you may have hooked to the PC? Cause you can use that in the place of the mother board for the mean time.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:38 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

No, all the things are done on myself, then I probably need someone to help me look at the monitor.

JM Casey 於 21/11/2020 4:36 寫道:
It can certainly be turned back on. it might be worth doing this just to see if it will indeed affect the ram issue you are having. Can they remot into your computer?
I guess you don't use a braille display, so being without speech would be a problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: November 20, 2020 07:09 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Dell technical support insisted that I have to try disabling this, so how should I deal with it?

After disabling this, can this return to normal?



luke scholey via groups.io 於 19/11/2020 15:38 寫道:
Hi William

Disabling this will unfortunately cause audio to stop on your system.

Can I ask which model Dell laptop you’re using?

The likely fix is to switch from the default Dell audio driver which I think is the Realtech Audio Driver, to the standard Microsoft driver, called HD Audio, by updating the driver.

You can do this from Control Panel > hardware and sound > Device manager > sound, video and game controllers (in the tree view).

Instead of searching for updates on the internet automatically, choose the manual option and select the button that will allow the user to choose a driver from a compatible list of drivers in the same category. Usually there will only be two drivers in this list, the current driver and the default MS driver HD Audio. This is the one you want. Just a note that your laptop will need to restart before using the new driver.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any trouble.

Kind regards
Luke

On 19 Nov 2020, at 05:06, William Wong <sine.kazurin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

In reporting the ram usage issue of my new computer, dell technical asked me to try disable Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation in task manager.


I am not sure if disabling this will affect screen reader like nvda?


Thanks,

William































Re: Microsoft Text Input Application

chris judge
 

That’s the new voice assistant in jaws 2021. Jaws is listening for the word sharky. Say sharky, wait for the sound, then ask something like, what time is it, or increase speed. I’m not sure what all it can do but it will do some basic jaws functions such as list links while on a web page. I haven’t had much time to play with it yet.

 

Chris Judge

JAWS Certified, 2020

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Nead
Sent: November 25, 2020 5:05 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Microsoft Text Input Application

 

Mine says Freedom Scientific is using  my microphone, and that just started with the new update. Have not noticed any changes.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 2:38 PM
To: Win10 <win10@win10.groups.io>
Subject: [win10] Microsoft Text Input Application

 

Hi All,

 

Running 20H2 (OS Build 19042.630).  For whatever reason in the Task Manager, on the applications tab I have 2 Settings running, is this normal?

 

Also, this is something I haven't noticed until a couple of days ago, I now also have an item called, Microsoft Text Input Application, running in the Task Manager / applications tab as well.  Does anyone know when this was introduced?  I know for positive this wasn't there 4 or 5 days ago but, it's there now.

All input is welcome, thanks much.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Re: Microsoft Text Input Application

Kenny Nead
 

Mine says Freedom Scientific is using  my microphone, and that just started with the new update. Have not noticed any changes.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 2:38 PM
To: Win10 <win10@win10.groups.io>
Subject: [win10] Microsoft Text Input Application

 

Hi All,

 

Running 20H2 (OS Build 19042.630).  For whatever reason in the Task Manager, on the applications tab I have 2 Settings running, is this normal?

 

Also, this is something I haven't noticed until a couple of days ago, I now also have an item called, Microsoft Text Input Application, running in the Task Manager / applications tab as well.  Does anyone know when this was introduced?  I know for positive this wasn't there 4 or 5 days ago but, it's there now.

All input is welcome, thanks much.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Microsoft Text Input Application

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
Running 20H2 (OS Build 19042.630).  For whatever reason in the Task Manager, on the applications tab I have 2 Settings running, is this normal?
 
Also, this is something I haven't noticed until a couple of days ago, I now also have an item called, Microsoft Text Input Application, running in the Task Manager / applications tab as well.  Does anyone know when this was introduced?  I know for positive this wasn't there 4 or 5 days ago but, it's there now.
All input is welcome, thanks much.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Re: Using SFC and DISM

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Bill,

           Yes, I did, and the actual link is unchanged:  Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

            I just replaced the previous version with the new one, so that's what downloads now.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
        ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)


Using SFC and DISM

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Brian. Did you ever update your tutorial on Using SFC and DISM? If so, may I have a link to the new procedures?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 


End of support for Windows 10 Version 1903 (May 2019 Update/build 18362) - Tue, 12/08/2020 10:00am-10:00am #cal-reminder

win10@win10.groups.io Calendar <win10@...>
 

Reminder: End of support for Windows 10 Version 1903 (May 2019 Update/build 18362)

When: Tuesday, 8 December 2020, 10:00am to 10:00am, (GMT-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:Worldwide

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Description:

Support for Windows 10 Version 1903 (May 2019 Update/build 18362) will end today. Both consumer and business support on semi-annual channel (SAC) will be terminated. Please update to Windows 10 Version 2004 or later. Note that even though support for this version ends, discussion surrounding this version will continue in the Win10 forum and its subgroups. Note: Windows 10 Version 1903 is a regular release (not a long-term support version).


Re: Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

luke scholey
 

Hi

The actual process itself isn’t at fault here. The isolation process is in effect just being used wrong by the realtech audio driver. So the driver is causing the process to use excessive ram, which will be eating into virtual as well thus giving you a high ram usage report.

The dell support are not wrong at all, but they don’t know the bigger picture of this particular problem. Changing the driver should fix it.

Kind regards
Luke

On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:08, William Wong <sine.kazurin@gmail.com> wrote:

The reason why the support instruct me to do so is I send him an abnormal ram report, which my system take up 7.xGB of ram, and the Windows graph isolation take up the first of the ram usage.

Actually the ram usage of this process is only around 200 mb which should not be the cause of the ram usage, but the support still instruct me to do so. I wonder if he is really a technical expert.


Hamit Campos 於 24/11/2020 2:16 寫道:
Ah wow okay then Luke may indeed be right. Let's see here what is this graph icelation the Dell person is telling you to shut down anyways? What does that do I mean. On a similar note though as a little tip you all know you can check the disable all inhancements box per sound device right? I know it's tempting to do especially with the gimics Dell is now putting on the soundcards. How ever and this I discovered with my Onkyo TX-SR 373 AVR don't do it when using 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound. I did it once just as my hot neighbor Cristal says just for the hell of it to get the direct signal and yes it shuts down all the gimmics but also say bie bie to the surround sound itself. So it seems Windows considers surround sound an inhansement not a actual channel count. That is strange and I'd like to report this to Microsoft so they could change it especially again with Dell adding all kinds of strange effects to the audio. Note not even the HDMI audio is cleen. Not with my XPS at least. Sye Dell has truly killed the meaning of the XPS. Sye Oh well.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:56 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Yes, but I see that Win10 can automatically detect your needed drivers and download it for you through update in setting

Hamit Campos 於 22/11/2020 1:06 寫道:
Ah then if those aren't paired yet pare them and you can use them in place of the Dell audio. As to Luke's point. I don't know maybe he's right now but when I refreshed my 3847 tower I then had to re-install the audio drivers. Good thing I had saved them because that tower's page is now gone.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

bluetooth things?

I do have some wirelessbluetooth speaker.Hamit Campos 於 21/11/2020
9:56
寫道:

Do you have at least something like 1 of the Olympus DM recorders? Or any USB or Blu-Tooth thing you may have hooked to the PC? Cause you can use that in the place of the mother board for the mean time.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:38 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

No, all the things are done on myself, then I probably need someone to help me look at the monitor.

JM Casey 於 21/11/2020 4:36 寫道:
It can certainly be turned back on. it might be worth doing this just to see if it will indeed affect the ram issue you are having. Can they remot into your computer?
I guess you don't use a braille display, so being without speech would be a problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: November 20, 2020 07:09 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Dell technical support insisted that I have to try disabling this, so how should I deal with it?

After disabling this, can this return to normal?



luke scholey via groups.io 於 19/11/2020 15:38 寫道:
Hi William

Disabling this will unfortunately cause audio to stop on your system.

Can I ask which model Dell laptop you’re using?

The likely fix is to switch from the default Dell audio driver which I think is the Realtech Audio Driver, to the standard Microsoft driver, called HD Audio, by updating the driver.

You can do this from Control Panel > hardware and sound > Device manager > sound, video and game controllers (in the tree view).

Instead of searching for updates on the internet automatically, choose the manual option and select the button that will allow the user to choose a driver from a compatible list of drivers in the same category. Usually there will only be two drivers in this list, the current driver and the default MS driver HD Audio. This is the one you want. Just a note that your laptop will need to restart before using the new driver.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any trouble.

Kind regards
Luke

On 19 Nov 2020, at 05:06, William Wong <sine.kazurin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

In reporting the ram usage issue of my new computer, dell technical asked me to try disable Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation in task manager.


I am not sure if disabling this will affect screen reader like nvda?


Thanks,

William


































Re: Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

William
 

The reason why the support instruct me to do so is I send him an abnormal ram report, which my system take up 7.xGB of ram, and the Windows graph isolation take up the first of the ram usage.

Actually the ram usage of this process is only around 200 mb which should not be the cause of the ram usage, but the support still instruct me to do so. I wonder if he is really a technical expert.


Hamit Campos 於 24/11/2020 2:16 寫道:

Ah wow okay then Luke may indeed be right. Let's see here what is this graph icelation the Dell person is telling you to shut down anyways? What does that do I mean. On a similar note though as a little tip you all know you can check the disable all inhancements box per sound device right? I know it's tempting to do especially with the gimics Dell is now putting on the soundcards. How ever and this I discovered with my Onkyo TX-SR 373 AVR don't do it when using 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound. I did it once just as my hot neighbor Cristal says just for the hell of it to get the direct signal and yes it shuts down all the gimmics but also say bie bie to the surround sound itself. So it seems Windows considers surround sound an inhansement not a actual channel count. That is strange and I'd like to report this to Microsoft so they could change it especially again with Dell adding all kinds of strange effects to the audio. Note not even the HDMI audio is cleen. Not with my XPS at least. Sye Dell has truly killed the meaning of the XPS. Sye Oh well.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:56 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Yes, but I see that Win10 can automatically detect your needed drivers and download it for you through update in setting

Hamit Campos 於 22/11/2020 1:06 寫道:
Ah then if those aren't paired yet pare them and you can use them in place of the Dell audio. As to Luke's point. I don't know maybe he's right now but when I refreshed my 3847 tower I then had to re-install the audio drivers. Good thing I had saved them because that tower's page is now gone.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

bluetooth things?

I do have some wirelessbluetooth speaker.Hamit Campos 於 21/11/2020
9:56
寫道:

Do you have at least something like 1 of the Olympus DM recorders? Or any USB or Blu-Tooth thing you may have hooked to the PC? Cause you can use that in the place of the mother board for the mean time.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:38 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

No, all the things are done on myself, then I probably need someone to help me look at the monitor.

JM Casey 於 21/11/2020 4:36 寫道:
It can certainly be turned back on. it might be worth doing this just to see if it will indeed affect the ram issue you are having. Can they remot into your computer?
I guess you don't use a braille display, so being without speech would be a problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: November 20, 2020 07:09 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Dell technical support insisted that I have to try disabling this, so how should I deal with it?

After disabling this, can this return to normal?



luke scholey via groups.io 於 19/11/2020 15:38 寫道:
Hi William

Disabling this will unfortunately cause audio to stop on your system.

Can I ask which model Dell laptop you’re using?

The likely fix is to switch from the default Dell audio driver which I think is the Realtech Audio Driver, to the standard Microsoft driver, called HD Audio, by updating the driver.

You can do this from Control Panel > hardware and sound > Device manager > sound, video and game controllers (in the tree view).

Instead of searching for updates on the internet automatically, choose the manual option and select the button that will allow the user to choose a driver from a compatible list of drivers in the same category. Usually there will only be two drivers in this list, the current driver and the default MS driver HD Audio. This is the one you want. Just a note that your laptop will need to restart before using the new driver.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any trouble.

Kind regards
Luke

On 19 Nov 2020, at 05:06, William Wong <sine.kazurin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

In reporting the ram usage issue of my new computer, dell technical asked me to try disable Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation in task manager.


I am not sure if disabling this will affect screen reader like nvda?


Thanks,

William






























Re: Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

luke scholey
 

Hi

Let me know if you try my suggestion regarding the driver.

It should work for you. I’d be interested in the results.

Kind regards
Luke

On 23 Nov 2020, at 18:16, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah wow okay then Luke may indeed be right. Let's see here what is this graph icelation the Dell person is telling you to shut down anyways? What does that do I mean. On a similar note though as a little tip you all know you can check the disable all inhancements box per sound device right? I know it's tempting to do especially with the gimics Dell is now putting on the soundcards. How ever and this I discovered with my Onkyo TX-SR 373 AVR don't do it when using 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound. I did it once just as my hot neighbor Cristal says just for the hell of it to get the direct signal and yes it shuts down all the gimmics but also say bie bie to the surround sound itself. So it seems Windows considers surround sound an inhansement not a actual channel count. That is strange and I'd like to report this to Microsoft so they could change it especially again with Dell adding all kinds of strange effects to the audio. Note not even the HDMI audio is cleen. Not with my XPS at least. Sye Dell has truly killed the meaning of the XPS. Sye Oh well.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:56 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Yes, but I see that Win10 can automatically detect your needed drivers and download it for you through update in setting

Hamit Campos 於 22/11/2020 1:06 寫道:
Ah then if those aren't paired yet pare them and you can use them in place of the Dell audio. As to Luke's point. I don't know maybe he's right now but when I refreshed my 3847 tower I then had to re-install the audio drivers. Good thing I had saved them because that tower's page is now gone.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

bluetooth things?

I do have some wirelessbluetooth speaker.Hamit Campos 於 21/11/2020
9:56
寫道:

Do you have at least something like 1 of the Olympus DM recorders? Or any USB or Blu-Tooth thing you may have hooked to the PC? Cause you can use that in the place of the mother board for the mean time.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:38 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

No, all the things are done on myself, then I probably need someone to help me look at the monitor.

JM Casey 於 21/11/2020 4:36 寫道:
It can certainly be turned back on. it might be worth doing this just to see if it will indeed affect the ram issue you are having. Can they remot into your computer?
I guess you don't use a braille display, so being without speech would be a problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: November 20, 2020 07:09 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Dell technical support insisted that I have to try disabling this, so how should I deal with it?

After disabling this, can this return to normal?



luke scholey via groups.io 於 19/11/2020 15:38 寫道:
Hi William

Disabling this will unfortunately cause audio to stop on your system.

Can I ask which model Dell laptop you’re using?

The likely fix is to switch from the default Dell audio driver which I think is the Realtech Audio Driver, to the standard Microsoft driver, called HD Audio, by updating the driver.

You can do this from Control Panel > hardware and sound > Device manager > sound, video and game controllers (in the tree view).

Instead of searching for updates on the internet automatically, choose the manual option and select the button that will allow the user to choose a driver from a compatible list of drivers in the same category. Usually there will only be two drivers in this list, the current driver and the default MS driver HD Audio. This is the one you want. Just a note that your laptop will need to restart before using the new driver.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any trouble.

Kind regards
Luke

On 19 Nov 2020, at 05:06, William Wong <sine.kazurin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

In reporting the ram usage issue of my new computer, dell technical asked me to try disable Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation in task manager.


I am not sure if disabling this will affect screen reader like nvda?


Thanks,

William



































Re: Adding an emoji

Holly
 

Dave:
 
What version of Windows are you running?


Re: Adding an emoji

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Day:  I realize it maybe a little late.  However, I just saw your message on this subject.  I am using NVDA and both were read.

Dave


On 11/22/2020 1:14 PM, Holly wrote:
Brian:
 
I will try to add an emoji at the bottom of this email.  First with JAWS, which will be the ‘rolling on the floor laughing’ one, and with Narrator, which will be ‘two hearts’.
 
Let me know if either shows up.
 
🤣💕


Re: Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Hamit Campos
 

Ah wow okay then Luke may indeed be right. Let's see here what is this graph icelation the Dell person is telling you to shut down anyways? What does that do I mean. On a similar note though as a little tip you all know you can check the disable all inhancements box per sound device right? I know it's tempting to do especially with the gimics Dell is now putting on the soundcards. How ever and this I discovered with my Onkyo TX-SR 373 AVR don't do it when using 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound. I did it once just as my hot neighbor Cristal says just for the hell of it to get the direct signal and yes it shuts down all the gimmics but also say bie bie to the surround sound itself. So it seems Windows considers surround sound an inhansement not a actual channel count. That is strange and I'd like to report this to Microsoft so they could change it especially again with Dell adding all kinds of strange effects to the audio. Note not even the HDMI audio is cleen. Not with my XPS at least. Sye Dell has truly killed the meaning of the XPS. Sye Oh well.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:56 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Yes, but I see that Win10 can automatically detect your needed drivers and download it for you through update in setting

Hamit Campos 於 22/11/2020 1:06 寫道:
Ah then if those aren't paired yet pare them and you can use them in place of the Dell audio. As to Luke's point. I don't know maybe he's right now but when I refreshed my 3847 tower I then had to re-install the audio drivers. Good thing I had saved them because that tower's page is now gone.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:26 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

bluetooth things?

I do have some wirelessbluetooth speaker.Hamit Campos 於 21/11/2020
9:56
寫道:

Do you have at least something like 1 of the Olympus DM recorders? Or any USB or Blu-Tooth thing you may have hooked to the PC? Cause you can use that in the place of the mother board for the mean time.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:38 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

No, all the things are done on myself, then I probably need someone to help me look at the monitor.

JM Casey 於 21/11/2020 4:36 寫道:
It can certainly be turned back on. it might be worth doing this just to see if it will indeed affect the ram issue you are having. Can they remot into your computer?
I guess you don't use a braille display, so being without speech would be a problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of
William Wong
Sent: November 20, 2020 07:09 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation

Dell technical support insisted that I have to try disabling this, so how should I deal with it?

After disabling this, can this return to normal?



luke scholey via groups.io 於 19/11/2020 15:38 寫道:
Hi William

Disabling this will unfortunately cause audio to stop on your system.

Can I ask which model Dell laptop you’re using?

The likely fix is to switch from the default Dell audio driver which I think is the Realtech Audio Driver, to the standard Microsoft driver, called HD Audio, by updating the driver.

You can do this from Control Panel > hardware and sound > Device manager > sound, video and game controllers (in the tree view).

Instead of searching for updates on the internet automatically, choose the manual option and select the button that will allow the user to choose a driver from a compatible list of drivers in the same category. Usually there will only be two drivers in this list, the current driver and the default MS driver HD Audio. This is the one you want. Just a note that your laptop will need to restart before using the new driver.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any trouble.

Kind regards
Luke

On 19 Nov 2020, at 05:06, William Wong <sine.kazurin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

In reporting the ram usage issue of my new computer, dell technical asked me to try disable Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation in task manager.


I am not sure if disabling this will affect screen reader like nvda?


Thanks,

William


























Re: settings app crashes when I try and enter game mode settings

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ok, this gets even weirder. I disabled what I thought was the offending ad on, then I disabled all add ons and the settings app still crashes. I know this as it is just gone from the task bar. My screen reader quits speaking and I start to hear it speak settings, then the app just goes away and crashes. I just looked in the event viewer and settings app does indeed crash on me, but only when I do what I've been doing. It does not how ever crash when I browse to the category and then choose game mode. Here is the dropbox link to the event log. Looks like a fault in the curnal or something according to what I'm seeing. I didn't read all 600 characters, just glanced at it.

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On 22 Nov 2020, at 11:00, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Running windows 2004 second half, or what ever it's called.

  1. Hit windows i to get to settings
  2. Search for "game"
  3. Tab to and select game mode settings
  4. Hit enter.

Settings app crashes. I tried running the dms and scan things and all come back well. I will not at this time repair windows as I have a lot to do on said machine. I did reboot to see if that would fix the problems and it does not. If others can reproduce I might submit this as feedback as well.

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Re: virus check.

Sarah k Alawami
 

Use microsoft security. It is really really good. Google for how to do this or search this group.

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On 22 Nov 2020, at 23:38, Billy Inglis wrote:

how to run a virus scan in windows10?.


Re: How to stop repeated screen echo

Sarah k Alawami
 

That has something to do with the website and some aria label and screen refreshing. You really can't stop those. I have several electron apps that do this. You will need to contact the web masters and tell them what is going on.

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On 23 Nov 2020, at 5:45, Peter Tesar wrote:

Hello,

 

I’m using the latest versions of: Jaws, NVDA, , Windows 10 H2 and Google Chrome.

 

It was very difficult to create a new account when my typing and browsing was repeatedly interrupted with messages.

It is going to be difficult to do online ordering from this department store’s

web site.

 

If I don’t touch the keyboard, I hear messages:

   Black Friday starts early… 5 of 11

   Ware house sale, up to 80% off 2 of 11

   Shop online or pickup curbside…6 of 11

 

Not all 11 messages are heard and the web page has only 1 list with 5 unrelated items.

 

I thought that the Jaws Insert plus s would stop this. The command is supposed to cycle Screen Echo between echoing highlighted text, all text and none.

 

The NVDA Insert plus s command turns Speech Off completely. 


I will need to browse the products and add items to a cart.

Is there a way to block these repeated highlighted messages?

 

Thank you,

 

Peter T.


How to stop repeated screen echo

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

 

I’m using the latest versions of: Jaws, NVDA, , Windows 10 H2 and Google Chrome.

 

It was very difficult to create a new account when my typing and browsing was repeatedly interrupted with messages.

It is going to be difficult to do online ordering from this department store’s

web site.

 

If I don’t touch the keyboard, I hear messages:

   Black Friday starts early… 5 of 11

   Ware house sale, up to 80% off 2 of 11

   Shop online or pickup curbside…6 of 11

 

Not all 11 messages are heard and the web page has only 1 list with 5 unrelated items.

 

I thought that the Jaws Insert plus s would stop this. The command is supposed to cycle Screen Echo between echoing highlighted text, all text and none.

 

The NVDA Insert plus s command turns Speech Off completely. 


I will need to browse the products and add items to a cart.

Is there a way to block these repeated highlighted messages?

 

Thank you,

 

Peter T.


Problem my WiFi in windows 10

Ján Kulik
 

You don't happen to know how can I solve the problem with wireless WiFi? I'm currently at home in the nursery near the WiFi router. Im WiFi works normally without any problems, but for me, as if on strike, I also found the following when solving the problem: Windows could not automatically detect this network's proxy settings Detected. And I don't know what to do with it now. The latest control on Brotcan is 7.35.xxxx. I think there will be a mistake somewhere in Windows, but I can't find it. Did you have something similar?

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