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Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

William
 

I finally contacted Dell support and offered to replace with a new one.

But it is strange that, Dell instructed me to going through a diagnostic mechanism and reported that the pc has no hardware issue.

He suspected that the high ram issue is related to the apps I am running.

I told him that, I am using the same set of apps on a older machine on 2013, and it even cost fewer ram memory.

Then he suspected it may be related to logic board issue and suggested me to replace the logic board.

I said, if I wait for the logic board replacement, it may exceeded the 7day of return or replace requirement, then I request a replacement.






Loy 於 8/11/2020 3:58 寫道:

I would call 'Dell and get a Return Authorization Number before returning
it. I have found that Dell is very good in honoring their warenty.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Wong" <sine.kazurin@gmail.com>
To: <win10@win10.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10


Hi,

As my old pc has broken down all at a sudden, I bought a new Dell
desktop computer with

8GB ram

Intel 10 generation core i5

250G SSD and 1TB HDD


I found that my new computer will always run out of ram

I simply open a few apps like one firefox, several folders and a notepad ++

and my NVDA will soon became very unresponsive

According to resource monitor the physical袃ram is around 9x and virtual
ram is also 3xG

I have already manually increased the virtual ram, disabled possible
performance hindering default apps, etc, but the problem seemed not fixed.

Only today I have already manually forced turn off the computer because
of not responding nvda for 3 times or more, and this is only my third
day of using this new pc.

I feel really frustrated , do any one can give me any useful advice?

thanks,

William











Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

Trying to put RAM that is several years old into a new Pc may not be a good idea at all. If you are buying a new PC now it most likely has DDR4 RAM I believe and if you put in DDR3 or even older it may or may not work, at best it may work but it could cause all sorts of problems.

The same goes for a hard drive, if you have an SSD which is maybe only 2 or 3 years old then OK, but if it's an actual mechanical hard drive you are not doing yourself a favour.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 3:37 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

Me too. I’m totally geeky that way. Heck if Christian Whawell did why not? Remember that BCT he did installing a DVD drive? Oh BCT was Blind Cool Tech.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:32 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

Haha, in fact is if there is somewhere local here can teach blind how to assembly or work with pc hardware, I  would like to learn about it.

I see that those old rams, hdd from old pcs can be ported to new pcs and can save money

Hamit Campos 8/11/2020 23:35 寫道:

In my case I do have my Inspiron 3847 tower. It’s a 2013 haswell desktop. Wait which intel chip was Gen 4? It’s either haswel or brodwell. If Haswell came first than that’s what that desktop is. I just point this out because would 2013 ram work with 10th Gen intel chips?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

I spent whole afternoon reinstalling win 10 and ram usage is the same....

 

Hamit Campos 8/11/2020 10:17 寫道:

Ah see that’s what I’m afraid of and I wil call dell and see. Am I in said return window yet? It just started doing this. Again in my case especially and only with that USB drive hooked up.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

Hamit Campos
 

Me too. I’m totally geeky that way. Heck if Christian Whawell did why not? Remember that BCT he did installing a DVD drive? Oh BCT was Blind Cool Tech.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:32 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

Haha, in fact is if there is somewhere local here can teach blind how to assembly or work with pc hardware, I  would like to learn about it.

I see that those old rams, hdd from old pcs can be ported to new pcs and can save money

Hamit Campos 8/11/2020 23:35 寫道:

In my case I do have my Inspiron 3847 tower. It’s a 2013 haswell desktop. Wait which intel chip was Gen 4? It’s either haswel or brodwell. If Haswell came first than that’s what that desktop is. I just point this out because would 2013 ram work with 10th Gen intel chips?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

I spent whole afternoon reinstalling win 10 and ram usage is the same....

 

Hamit Campos 8/11/2020 10:17 寫道:

Ah see that’s what I’m afraid of and I wil call dell and see. Am I in said return window yet? It just started doing this. Again in my case especially and only with that USB drive hooked up.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

William
 

Haha, in fact is if there is somewhere local here can teach blind how to assembly or work with pc hardware, I  would like to learn about it.

I see that those old rams, hdd from old pcs can be ported to new pcs and can save money

Hamit Campos 於 8/11/2020 23:35 寫道:

In my case I do have my Inspiron 3847 tower. It’s a 2013 haswell desktop. Wait which intel chip was Gen 4? It’s either haswel or brodwell. If Haswell came first than that’s what that desktop is. I just point this out because would 2013 ram work with 10th Gen intel chips?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

I spent whole afternoon reinstalling win 10 and ram usage is the same....

 

Hamit Campos 8/11/2020 10:17 寫道:

Ah see that’s what I’m afraid of and I wil call dell and see. Am I in said return window yet? It just started doing this. Again in my case especially and only with that USB drive hooked up.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: A Small Question Regarding Latest Update of Windows 10

 

Unfortunately, I'm not trying to be funny.  It is appalling how resistant many members of this group are to doing web searches for simple questions.  And posting the same question, twice, in less than 2 days when the first had no takers does not endear one to the readership.  If someone knows, they'll answer the first time asked.

Anyone who wants to know more about the "Meet Now" feature, which includes its button, should choose the web search engine of their choosing and put in the following short set of search terms:

Windows 10 +"meet now"

When something is this new there are going to be very few end users who can answer anything about it, as it just came out.  I'm among those who know this feature strictly on the basis of what Joseph Lee had posted in a recent cumulative update announcement.  Those who have been running insider builds and the tech press are generally where one gets the best information on a brand, spankin' new feature.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: A Small Question Regarding Latest Update of Windows 10

Hamit Campos
 

Ahahahahahahahahahahhahaha well at least now you were kind of silly there Brian. Good my friend. There’s this thing called a web search. Ah too dam funny there.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 11:41 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] A Small Question Regarding Latest Update of Windows 10

 

There is this thing called a web search, which turns up more articles on the Meet Now button (directly linked to Skype) than I can count.  Joseph Lee gave the precise name of the button in a recent cumulative update announcement, making it very easy to search on "Meet Now" or "Meet Now button" on the web.

See:  https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-this-is-what-your-new-meet-now-taskbar-button-does-explains-microsoft/ 

My guess is that if you're not using Skype you won't ever see it and if you don't allow it to show on the taskbar you won't see it, either.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: A Small Question Regarding Latest Update of Windows 10

 

There is this thing called a web search, which turns up more articles on the Meet Now button (directly linked to Skype) than I can count.  Joseph Lee gave the precise name of the button in a recent cumulative update announcement, making it very easy to search on "Meet Now" or "Meet Now button" on the web.

See:  https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-this-is-what-your-new-meet-now-taskbar-button-does-explains-microsoft/ 

My guess is that if you're not using Skype you won't ever see it and if you don't allow it to show on the taskbar you won't see it, either.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

Mike Capelle <mcap@...>
 

I use my Lenovo's method of recovery

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 10:25 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

Using the Media Creation Tool would be best, but without preserving any
of the existing installation. Someone I trust in these matters once told
me that he always performs a complete reinstallation on a new machine to
eliminate all of the vendor-specific software that is installed, and to
ensure that the correct drivers are present. If you need any extra
drivers, they can be downloaded separately, although Windows 10 seems to
take care of those automatically.

On 11/7/20 7:18 PM, William Wong wrote:
Hi,

In fact that is good idea, which way of complete reinstall do you
mean, via setting>restore or create installer usb via creation media?


Jason White via groups.io 於 8/11/2020 7:29 寫道:
Have you tried a complete reinstallation of Windows 10 from original
Microsoft images? That is, totally eliminating the existing
installation and installing from a USB drive created by the Media
Creation Tool?

On 11/7/20 2:58 PM, Loy wrote:
I would call 'Dell and get a Return Authorization Number before
returning
it. I have found that Dell is very good in honoring their warenty.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Wong" <sine.kazurin@gmail.com>
To: <win10@win10.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10


Hi,

As my old pc has broken down all at a sudden, I bought a new Dell
desktop computer with

8GB ram

Intel 10 generation core i5

250G SSD and 1TB HDD


I found that my new computer will always run out of ram

I simply open a few apps like one firefox, several folders and a
notepad ++

and my NVDA will soon became very unresponsive

According to resource monitor the physical袃ram is around 9x and
virtual
ram is also 3xG

I have already manually increased the virtual ram, disabled possible
performance hindering default apps, etc, but the problem seemed not
fixed.

Only today I have already manually forced turn off the computer because
of not responding nvda for 3 times or more, and this is only my third
day of using this new pc.

I feel really frustrated , do any one can give me any useful advice?

thanks,

William


















Re: ALT+TAB classic view in the latest Windows 10

Jason White
 

Yes, that's clearly the 20H2 update.

On 11/8/20 7:42 AM, albert brown wrote:
Yesterday I got an update, you can see it below.
Is this the correct update.


ALBERT

Jaws Home Eddition 2020
Operating System Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 20H2 (build 19042.572)

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Saturday 7 November 2020 23:33
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] ALT+TAB classic view in the latest Windows 10

2004 is effectively 20H1.

If you have 20H2 installed, the version number now literally reads "20H2", at least on my system.


On 11/7/20 6:30 PM, Bill White wrote:


Hi, Brian. You wrote:



Bill,

Are they absolutely positive that they're on Version 20H2? There was a recent update,

October 2020 cumulative update preview: KB4580364/build 19041(2).610 <https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/october_2020_cumulative/77895427?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,77895427>

, that I've seen some believe was the 20H2 Feature Update.



The version she shows is,



Microsoft Windows

Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.572)



Is this 2004H1 or H2?



Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>



From: win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:40 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [win10] ALT+TAB classic view in the latest Windows 10



Bill,

Are they absolutely positive that they're on Version 20H2? There was a recent update,

October 2020 cumulative update preview: KB4580364/build 19041(2).610 <https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/october_2020_cumulative/77895427?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,77895427>

, that I've seen some believe was the 20H2 Feature Update.

What's coming back from the winver command for version and build numbers?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

~ Madonna







Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

Jason White
 

Using the Media Creation Tool would be best, but without preserving any of the existing installation. Someone I trust in these matters once told me that he always performs a complete reinstallation on a new machine to eliminate all of the vendor-specific software that is installed, and to ensure that the correct drivers are present. If you need any extra drivers, they can be downloaded separately, although Windows 10 seems to take care of those automatically.

On 11/7/20 7:18 PM, William Wong wrote:
Hi,

In fact that is good idea, which way of complete reinstall do you mean, via setting>restore or create installer usb via creation media?


Jason White via groups.io 於 8/11/2020 7:29 寫道:
Have you tried a complete reinstallation of Windows 10 from original Microsoft images? That is, totally eliminating the existing installation and installing from a USB drive created by the Media Creation Tool?

On 11/7/20 2:58 PM, Loy wrote:
I would call 'Dell and get a Return Authorization Number  before returning
it. I have found that Dell is very good in honoring their warenty.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Wong" <sine.kazurin@gmail.com>
To: <win10@win10.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10


Hi,

As my old pc has broken down all at a sudden, I bought a new Dell
desktop computer with

8GB ram

Intel 10 generation core i5

250G SSD and 1TB HDD


I found that my new computer will always run out of ram

I simply open a few apps like one firefox, several folders and a notepad ++

and my NVDA will soon became very unresponsive

According to resource monitor the physical袃ram is around 9x and virtual
ram is also 3xG

I have already manually increased the virtual ram, disabled possible
performance hindering default apps, etc, but the problem seemed not fixed.

Only today I have already manually forced turn off the computer because
of not responding nvda for 3 times or more, and this is only my third
day of using this new pc.

I feel really frustrated , do any one can give me any useful advice?

thanks,

William

















Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

Hamit Campos
 

In my case I do have my Inspiron 3847 tower. It’s a 2013 haswell desktop. Wait which intel chip was Gen 4? It’s either haswel or brodwell. If Haswell came first than that’s what that desktop is. I just point this out because would 2013 ram work with 10th Gen intel chips?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

I spent whole afternoon reinstalling win 10 and ram usage is the same....

 

Hamit Campos 8/11/2020 10:17 寫道:

Ah see that’s what I’m afraid of and I wil call dell and see. Am I in said return window yet? It just started doing this. Again in my case especially and only with that USB drive hooked up.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

Hamit Campos
 

I thought Brian said no. However Brian what about the Data on the data drive? Should we leave that as is too?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:57 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

Oh, so before a refund or replacement I better to restore the computer back to its original?

 

Brian Vogel 8/11/2020 10:14 寫道:

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: ALT+TAB classic view in the latest Windows 10

albert brown
 

Yesterday I got an update, you can see it below.
Is this the correct update.


ALBERT

Jaws Home Eddition 2020

Operating System Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 20H2 (build 19042.572)

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Saturday 7 November 2020 23:33
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] ALT+TAB classic view in the latest Windows 10

2004 is effectively 20H1.

If you have 20H2 installed, the version number now literally reads "20H2", at least on my system.


On 11/7/20 6:30 PM, Bill White wrote:


Hi, Brian. You wrote:



Bill,

Are they absolutely positive that they're on Version 20H2? There was a recent update,

October 2020 cumulative update preview: KB4580364/build 19041(2).610 <https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/october_2020_cumulative/77895427?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,77895427>

, that I've seen some believe was the 20H2 Feature Update.



The version she shows is,



Microsoft Windows

Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.572)



Is this 2004H1 or H2?



Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>



From: win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:40 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [win10] ALT+TAB classic view in the latest Windows 10



Bill,

Are they absolutely positive that they're on Version 20H2? There was a recent update,

October 2020 cumulative update preview: KB4580364/build 19041(2).610 <https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/october_2020_cumulative/77895427?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,77895427>

, that I've seen some believe was the 20H2 Feature Update.

What's coming back from the winver command for version and build numbers?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

William
 

By the way, I have also go through the memory check, though the process is not accessible via screen reader, I use seeing ai to monitor the process and seemed that no problems was identified at the progress of 86percent.

Brian Vogel 於 8/11/2020 10:14 寫道:

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

William
 

Oh, so before a refund or replacement I better to restore the computer back to its original?


Brian Vogel 於 8/11/2020 10:14 寫道:

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

William
 

If I have the knowledge and skill, I definitely would like to do so....


Rick Mladek 於 8/11/2020 19:19 寫道:

Have you attempted to remove/reseat the ram chips? If you have the old P?C, is it possible to exchange the old into the new?

 

Trying to help, keep the Faith William, you’ll get over this headache. You are too intelligent not to...

 

Best,

 

Rick

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

I spent whole afternoon reinstalling win 10 and ram usage is the same....

 

Hamit Campos 8/11/2020 10:17 寫道:

Ah see that’s what I’m afraid of and I wil call dell and see. Am I in said return window yet? It just started doing this. Again in my case especially and only with that USB drive hooked up.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

Rick Mladek
 

Have you attempted to remove/reseat the ram chips? If you have the old P?C, is it possible to exchange the old into the new?

 

Trying to help, keep the Faith William, you’ll get over this headache. You are too intelligent not to...

 

Best,

 

Rick

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 6:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

I spent whole afternoon reinstalling win 10 and ram usage is the same....

 

Hamit Campos 8/11/2020 10:17 寫道:

Ah see that’s what I’m afraid of and I wil call dell and see. Am I in said return window yet? It just started doing this. Again in my case especially and only with that USB drive hooked up.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

William
 

I spent whole afternoon reinstalling win 10 and ram usage is the same....


Hamit Campos 於 8/11/2020 10:17 寫道:

Ah see that’s what I’m afraid of and I wil call dell and see. Am I in said return window yet? It just started doing this. Again in my case especially and only with that USB drive hooked up.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


A Small Question Regarding Latest Update of Windows 10

inamuddin khan
 

Respected friends, I’m using windows 10 version 2020 H2 build OS19042.610 with JAWS 2020.

The matter of fact is that I read that a meet now button is introduced with this update but I don’t find that button.

I have searched it everywhere but I failed to find it.

Can you help me?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

Hamit Campos
 

Ah see that’s what I’m afraid of and I wil call dell and see. Am I in said return window yet? It just started doing this. Again in my case especially and only with that USB drive hooked up.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Help needed, frustrated about my new Win 10

 

The only time you need a product key during a Windows 10 install is if you are installing on to a machine that has never, ever had Windows 10 loaded and activated on it in the past.

If the machine has had Windows 10 loaded and activated, the license will be fetched from Microsoft's servers.  Even if you install without an internet connection once the internet connection is established the license key will be fetched then.

Now, after having said the above, if we're talking about a virtually brand new system I would not try reinstalling Windows 10.  It certainly won't, and shouldn't, void any warranty but if you have something that is within the return window the less you do to it the easier it is to get a return for refund or replacement approved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna

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