----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin

To: win10@win10.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:30 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] windows mail

Tried that twice already.  Both times the account shows in the manage window but not in the all accounts

 

From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:20 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] windows mail

 

Just a thought. Maybe delete the account and then re set it up.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin

To: win10@win10.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] windows mail

 

I don’ believe so.  But even if I did shouldn’t both still show in the all accounts window

 

From: Robert Cole via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:11 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] windows mail

 

Under Manage accounts, did you click on the link inboxes button?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 9:06 PM
To: win10@groups.io <win10@groups.io>
Subject: [win10] windows mail

 

i have a weird issue in the windows mail app.  i have two email accounts and they both show up in the manage accounts window.  but only one shows up in the all accounts window.  i know it is possible to turn off an email from recieving messages.  but when i look in the manage accounts there is no on/off button or a check box to tell windows i want to use the account.  i was able to use both at one time, but i was messing in the privacy settings.  i have no idea what i did because when i went back to email, there was only one account in the all accounts list.

anyone have any idea how to fix this?

 

Using

Windows 10 build 836

 

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin

To: win10@win10.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] windows mail

 

I don’ believe so.  But even if I did shouldn’t both still show in the all accounts window

 

From: Robert Cole via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:11 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] windows mail

 

Under Manage accounts, did you click on the link inboxes button?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 9:06 PM
To: win10@groups.io <win10@groups.io>
Subject: [win10] windows mail

 

i have a weird issue in the windows mail app.  i have two email accounts and they both show up in the manage accounts window.  but only one shows up in the all accounts window.  i know it is possible to turn off an email from recieving messages.  but when i look in the manage accounts there is no on/off button or a check box to tell windows i want to use the account.  i was able to use both at one time, but i was messing in the privacy settings.  i have no idea what i did because when i went back to email, there was only one account in the all accounts list.

anyone have any idea how to fix this?

 

Using

Windows 10 build 836

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin

To: win10@win10.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] windows mail

I don’ believe so.  But even if I did shouldn’t both still show in the all accounts window

 

From: Robert Cole via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:11 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] windows mail

 

Under Manage accounts, did you click on the link inboxes button?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 9:06 PM
To: win10@groups.io <win10@groups.io>
Subject: [win10] windows mail

 

i have a weird issue in the windows mail app.  i have two email accounts and they both show up in the manage accounts window.  but only one shows up in the all accounts window.  i know it is possible to turn off an email from recieving messages.  but when i look in the manage accounts there is no on/off button or a check box to tell windows i want to use the account.  i was able to use both at one time, but i was messing in the privacy settings.  i have no idea what i did because when i went back to email, there was only one account in the all accounts list.

anyone have any idea how to fix this?

 

Using

Windows 10 build 836

 

 

 

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Under Manage accounts, did you click on the link inboxes button?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

i have a weird issue in the windows mail app.  i have two email accounts and they both show up in the manage accounts window.  but only one shows up in the all accounts window.  i know it is possible to turn off an email from recieving messages.  but when i look in the manage accounts there is no on/off button or a check box to tell windows i want to use the account.  i was able to use both at one time, but i was messing in the privacy settings.  i have no idea what i did because when i went back to email, there was only one account in the all accounts list.

anyone have any idea how to fix this?

Using

Windows 10 build 836

i have a weird issue in the windows mail app.  i have two email accounts and they both show up in the manage accounts window.  but only one shows up in the all accounts window.  i know it is possible to turn off an email from recieving messages.  but when i look in the manage accounts there is no on/off button or a check box to tell windows i want to use the account.  i was able to use both at one time, but i was messing in the privacy settings.  i have no idea what i did because when i went back to email, there was only one account in the all accounts list.

anyone have any idea how to fix this?

Using

Windows 10 build 836

Hi,

As a follow-up: I’m intentionally being vague here. The first reason is that I myself don’t know exactly when it’ll show up. The second reason is to remind everyone of a promise I made a few years ago: I will not answer questions about feature update release dates or any variation of the question, “when will I get such and such update”. For more than half a decade, the only constant thing was unpredictability.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 10:39 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [Special] Re: [win10] Version 2004 and JAWS: JAWS 2019 or later is required #JAWS #WinTen2004 #ADVISORY

 

Hi,

Unless a really serious issue shows up, Version 2004 may (not will) go live next week (I say “may go live” because even some insightful sources are unsure as to when exactly 2004 will show up). Note that “next week” is general availability for early adopters – the general public will get it when their machines are deemed ready.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marek Durila
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 10:29 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io; Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 2004 and JAWS: JAWS 2019 or later is required #JAWS #WinTen2004 #ADVISORY

 

Hi,

Do you know, when should be released?

The end of May is next week.

 

Dne 23.05.2020 v 6:58 g melconian napsal(a):

I think so. But if there are issues then there will be an update to nvda.

On May 22, 2020 12:35:04 PM "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> wrote:

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

 

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

I was talking about  the latest nvda update.i would  think that  the  latest Update to NVDA would work with the latest version of windows 10.that Is  all I was saying. 

Just as there are updates to Jaws, just to be clear, and I’m not an NVDA user, but I doubt a 3-year old NVDA version would work perfectly well with the latest Windows 10 update, either.

Just as there are updates to Jaws, just to be clear, and I’m not an NVDA user, but I doubt a 3-year old NVDA version would work perfectly well with the latest Windows 10 update, either.

Hi,

Unless a really serious issue shows up, Version 2004 may (not will) go live next week (I say “may go live” because even some insightful sources are unsure as to when exactly 2004 will show up). Note that “next week” is general availability for early adopters – the general public will get it when their machines are deemed ready.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,

Do you know, when should be released?

The end of May is next week.

I think so. But if there are issues then there will be an update to nvda.

On May 22, 2020 12:35:04 PM "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> wrote:

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

 

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,

Do you know, when should be released?

The end of May is next week.

I think so. But if there are issues then there will be an update to nvda.

On May 22, 2020 12:35:04 PM "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> wrote:

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

 

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

I think so. But if there are issues then there will be an update to nvda.

On May 22, 2020 12:35:04 PM "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> wrote:

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hello,

I have been using Drive SnapShot for years.

Its small  portable and screen reader accessible.

I’ve tried other backup programs, but this one is the best thing since sliced bread!

And most of all, No sighted help is needed.

I believe the US price is about $42.

I use Windows Talking PE Disk with NVDA to boot the PC if its unbootable, and run Drive SnapShot to restore the PC.

For more info, go to:

www.drivesnapshot.de/en

 

On May 20, 2020, at 11:06 PM, tom x <ballistic719@...> wrote:

Thanks for the info Kevin and will have a go.

 

Tom

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:17 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] create a W10 system image

 

That’s  itmicrosoft is just too lazy to change the name.  a word of note you need sighted help to create one

 

From: tom x
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 10:56 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] create a W10 system image

 

Hi,

 

How can I create a W10 64 bit system image backup?

 

Under the Control Panel there is a W7 system backup but could not locate one for W10. Is the W7 image backup the same as the W10 version?

 

 

Thanks

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

Just as there are updates to Jaws, just to be clear, and I’m not an NVDA user, but I doubt a 3-year old NVDA version would work perfectly well with the latest Windows 10 update, either.

I presume that if you're using NVDA, you'd be fine?

Chris.

On 05/22/2020 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

An important compatibility update for JAWS users seeking to use upcoming Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update):

 

In an email I sent out a few weeks ago, I noted that JAWS 2018 should work with upcoming May 2020 Update. Based on latest tests (on build 19041.264 and on latest Insider Preview build), I’m sorry to announce that JAWS 2018 did not make the cut. Issues include:

 

• In Start search box, no results will be announced automatically while searching.
• Cannot navigate emoji panel and other modern input features.

 

Later JAWS releases such as 2019 do not exhibit all symptoms noted above. Although you don’t have to use emoji panel and other modern input features, the ability to announce search results automatically (and alongside that, announcing result descriptions) from Start is considered an essential feature for Windows 10 and screen readers. Therefore, I hereby announce that:

 

In order to use Windows 10 Version 2004 and take advantage of changes introduced as part of that feature update, JAWS 2019 or later is required.

 

The root cause of this incompatibility is the fact that JAWS 2018 does not come with updated scripts for new Windows Search experience that will ship as part of Version 2004 (the executable file name for Windows Search has changed). This is also the reason why JAWS does not support emoji panel and modern input features in Version 2004 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,
Yes, Alt+X method is the easiest way.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Goldfield
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 11:44 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] How to Tell If a User Has Legacy Edge or Chromium
Edge

Hello. While I am using the new Chromium Edge I'm assisting a user via
email who has Edge but I am unsure as to whether she has the Chromium
version as opposed to the legacy version. She is an NVDA user. What is
the quickest way that she can determine which version she is using.
It's been so long since I've used the legacy version that I cannot
remember the menu structure. I thought I remembered them using alt-X
for a settings menu which is not present in the new Edge. Is this correct?

--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

By the way, I have yet to see new Chromium-based Edge be pushed out to a single machine via Windows Update.  So if you haven't done a download and install from the Microsoft Edge Download Page you are certain, in my experience so far, to be using original Edge.

In original Edge, to check the version, ALT+X, Up Arrow twice to settings and hit enter.  Then at the bottom of the General settings that open, under About this app is the Edge version number.

In new Edge, to check the version, ALT+F, B, M.  A tab will open to the About pane in Settings.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore