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locked Re: A word on recent happenings: Chrome thread, new Microsoft engineer on board #AdminNotice

Mary Otten
 

Joseph,
I have generally understood your moderator directions and notes etc. But this one I don’t get it. Why in heavens name is it not appropriate to discuss the usability of a browser if one is running windows 10? Chrome is one set browser. If the discussion where about edge, would that be different? Is this supposed to be limited to Microsoft products and services only? That seems a bit weird.
Mary



On May 24, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Dear Win10 forum family,

 

I’d like to announce that we have a new Microsoft staff with us. I’m sure this person will make a statement when ready.

 

But to a more pressing event: for people who have been discussing Chrome extensions, I would like to kindly advise that we think about relevance of that topic to this forum. In the old days, I would have locked the thread after explaining the purpose of the forum cluster. But now, I think a time of reflection might be a more appropriate thing to do.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


locked Re: A word on recent happenings: Chrome thread, new Microsoft engineer on board #AdminNotice

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I agree.  If this group is going to be this heavily handed moderated I will unsubscribe.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:45 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] A word on recent happenings: Chrome thread, new Microsoft engineer on board #AdminNotice

 

Joseph,

         Web browsers, all of them, are an integral part of the Windows 10 (and earlier, too) ecosystems.  Accessibility to use all parts of the ecosystem for screen reader users is, I though, a core part of this group.

          You're restrictive definition of "appropriate for discussion here" is, to put it mildly, inappropriate.  You've got some reflecting to do.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.

         ~ Commenter TheCruyffGurn on the The Guardian website, 8/13/2014

 


locked Re: A word on recent happenings: Chrome thread, new Microsoft engineer on board #AdminNotice

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Joseph,

         Web browsers, all of them, are an integral part of the Windows 10 (and earlier, too) ecosystems.  Accessibility to use all parts of the ecosystem for screen reader users is, I though, a core part of this group.

          You're restrictive definition of "appropriate for discussion here" is, to put it mildly, inappropriate.  You've got some reflecting to do.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.

         ~ Commenter TheCruyffGurn on the The Guardian website, 8/13/2014

 


locked Re: A word on recent happenings: Chrome thread, new Microsoft engineer on board #AdminNotice

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

its revavent in my opinion if they work with screen readers.  If such topics are not appropate I will consider unsubscribing.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: [win10] A word on recent happenings: Chrome thread, new Microsoft engineer on board #AdminNotice

 

Dear Win10 forum family,

 

I’d like to announce that we have a new Microsoft staff with us. I’m sure this person will make a statement when ready.

 

But to a more pressing event: for people who have been discussing Chrome extensions, I would like to kindly advise that we think about relevance of that topic to this forum. In the old days, I would have locked the thread after explaining the purpose of the forum cluster. But now, I think a time of reflection might be a more appropriate thing to do.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


locked A word on recent happenings: Chrome thread, new Microsoft engineer on board #AdminNotice

 

Dear Win10 forum family,

 

I’d like to announce that we have a new Microsoft staff with us. I’m sure this person will make a statement when ready.

 

But to a more pressing event: for people who have been discussing Chrome extensions, I would like to kindly advise that we think about relevance of that topic to this forum. In the old days, I would have locked the thread after explaining the purpose of the forum cluster. But now, I think a time of reflection might be a more appropriate thing to do.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Reader Add-On in Firefox & Just Read extension in Chrome

g melconian
 

Thanks for the info bryan.i like just  read when I need  reader mode  I just right click and use the eextension.  So far I have tried a half dozen of these so called reader mode extension the only one  so far  that I like is just read.its also open source and has a git hub page as well. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:52 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Reader Add-On in Firefox & Just Read extension in Chrome

 

You might want to look at these two pages with regard to a reader mode that was added to Chrome in 2015, but that requires you to start Chrome with a command line switch, which you can do via the desktop shortcut:

                     https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-enable-reader-mode-in-chrome/  

                     https://www.engadget.com/2015/02/25/google-chrome-reader-mode/ 

or the third party Reader extension.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.

         ~ Commenter TheCruyffGurn on the The Guardian website, 8/13/2014

 


Re: Reader Add-On in Firefox & Just Read extension in Chrome

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

You might want to look at these two pages with regard to a reader mode that was added to Chrome in 2015, but that requires you to start Chrome with a command line switch, which you can do via the desktop shortcut:

                     https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-enable-reader-mode-in-chrome/  

                     https://www.engadget.com/2015/02/25/google-chrome-reader-mode/ 

or the third party Reader extension.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.

         ~ Commenter TheCruyffGurn on the The Guardian website, 8/13/2014

 


Re: Reader Add-On in Firefox & Just Read extension in Chrome

 

Hello,
I tried it, but nothing seemed to change.
How I use it in the right way?
And one last thing, do you know how I can download the XPI file of an addon?
  Em 24/05/2018 20:17, Brian Vogel escreveu:

Reader Add-on for Firefox at addons.mozilla.org

Just Read for Chrome in the Chrome Web Store

Am I safe in assuming that each of these allows you to do "text extraction" from a given webpage so that when the screen reader reads the result it's much more like someone is reading it to you as they'd read it to themselves rather than announcing, "link", before each click-through link, etc.?

I was asking on the JAWS list how I could get a Wikipedia page to read without announcing each and every click-through link, which makes the text virtually incomprehensible to listen to.  The suggestion that's tops so far with regard to JAWS was using the Say All Scheme, Say All Text Only, option when you wanted to do this and switching back to the typical No Change scheme afterward.  I think it would be much easier to use a text extraction extension/add-on, particularly if you can tweak the way it decides what needs to be extracted, as I'd love to be able to leave all of the extraneous links that are often at the top and bottom of webpages which are, in way more than 99% of situations, just background noise that a sighted reader never considers.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.

         ~ Commenter TheCruyffGurn on the The Guardian website, 8/13/2014

 



re one more reader mode type extension outline.com

g melconian
 


Remove ads, comments, and related links. Read comfortably.

Outline.com is a free service that makes websites more readable. We remove the clutter, like ads, related links, and comments—so your friends don’t have to suffer.
 
To use the extension, click the Outline icon and it will automatically remove the clutter.

Website



 


re just read extension does giv you reader mode option in chrome

g melconian
 

Hello after doing more investigating with just read .what you have to do is launch a page an then right click an then  click view with just read and then the extension will go to  work on getting rid of all the ad and all the  html junk and giving a plain text formatted page in which jaws will read with continuous read key.   Hope this helps out.sorry did not do more investigating before saying it would not do what bryan wanted.  Did try this out with a few pages wwhich had ad and html content.


Re: re just read extension does giv you reader mode option in chrome

g melconian
 

Had more time to play with it and this one jus gives a page but announces
heading link with jaws which I don't want.will keep on looking for a
better solution.will let you know whati find.


Re: Reader Add-On in Firefox & Just Read extension in Chrome

g melconian
 

Actually this just read does not do what we want after playing with it and trying to  get pages to  read in a straight forward way with all html and all that junk stripped out like you can do with firefox and safari.i will have to tplay with some more reader mod extension.i know that you can enable reader mode in chrome.  I just need to  figure out the  ststeps involved as I was reading up on this topic  on a chrome forum earlier. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Reader extension in Firefox & Just Read Add-On in Chrome

 

Reader Add-on for Firefox at addons.mozilla.org

Just Read for Chrome in the Chrome Web Store

Am I safe in assuming that each of these allows you to do "text extraction" from a given webpage so that when the screen reader reads the result it's much more like someone is reading it to you as they'd read it to themselves rather than announcing, "link", before each click-through link, etc.?

I was asking on the JAWS list how I could get a Wikipedia page to read without announcing each and every click-through link, which makes the text virtually incomprehensible to listen to.  The suggestion that's tops so far with regard to JAWS was using the Say All Scheme, Say All Text Only, option when you wanted to do this and switching back to the typical No Change scheme afterward.  I think it would be much easier to use a text extraction extension/add-on, particularly if you can tweak the way it decides what needs to be extracted, as I'd love to be able to leave all of the extraneous links that are often at the top and bottom of webpages which are, in way more than 99% of situations, just background noise that a sighted reader never considers.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.

         ~ Commenter TheCruyffGurn on the The Guardian website, 8/13/2014

 


Re: Reader Add-On in Firefox & Just Read extension in Chrome

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Of course, I meant to correct the subject, but didn't.   Firefox uses Add-Ons and Chrome uses Extensions.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.

         ~ Commenter TheCruyffGurn on the The Guardian website, 8/13/2014

 


Reader Add-On in Firefox & Just Read extension in Chrome

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Reader Add-on for Firefox at addons.mozilla.org

Just Read for Chrome in the Chrome Web Store

Am I safe in assuming that each of these allows you to do "text extraction" from a given webpage so that when the screen reader reads the result it's much more like someone is reading it to you as they'd read it to themselves rather than announcing, "link", before each click-through link, etc.?

I was asking on the JAWS list how I could get a Wikipedia page to read without announcing each and every click-through link, which makes the text virtually incomprehensible to listen to.  The suggestion that's tops so far with regard to JAWS was using the Say All Scheme, Say All Text Only, option when you wanted to do this and switching back to the typical No Change scheme afterward.  I think it would be much easier to use a text extraction extension/add-on, particularly if you can tweak the way it decides what needs to be extracted, as I'd love to be able to leave all of the extraneous links that are often at the top and bottom of webpages which are, in way more than 99% of situations, just background noise that a sighted reader never considers.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.

         ~ Commenter TheCruyffGurn on the The Guardian website, 8/13/2014

 


Re: re just read extension does giv you reader mode option in chrome

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

How does this extension work? thanks.

On 5/24/2018 3:41 PM, g melconian wrote:
Hello just found one for chrome.its called just read an it will do what you want.just installed and its working just like reder mode in firefox. So give it a try and se if it will do what you want.� �I love that �by googling �an extension for chrome the extension just comes up and not hunting for it like in firefox jungles.


re just read extension does giv you reader mode option in chrome

g melconian
 

Hello just found one for chrome.its called just read an it will do what you want.just installed and its working just like reder mode in firefox. So give it a try and se if it will do what you want.   I love that  by googling  an extension for chrome the extension just comes up and not hunting for it like in firefox jungles. 


Re: Google Chrome extentions

g melconian
 

Let me do some investigating and will let you know.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dennis L
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:21 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

Is there a addon that will support the reader option like in firefox?

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

hi,
Add block plus isn't an accessibility addon per say, but it wipes out all
adds, resulting in less clutter, better navigation, and better
accessibility. If you type into google add block plus for chrome, you should
find it.
On 24 May 2018, at 10:16 pm, Shannon <shannon@bartchroofing.com> wrote:

I have never added anything of the kind to a browser ever. I have
however
become ever so much annoyed by all the Adds!
I thought I would take a look at the add blocker accessability extensions.
I tried to get the Add Block Pluss but I think I got the wrong one.
How do I tell if I have successfully added an extension? If I have the
wrong one how do I get rid of it?
Thanks
Shannon

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of g melconian
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:44 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

Thast what I use.nothing has been abl eot beat hat one.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:31 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

I would highly! recommend add block plus. that's pretty much all I
have
besides the sound effects, works like a charm.

On 23/05/2018 06:30 PM, Don H wrote:
Are there other recommended extensions for Google Chrome for us who
use screen readers?













Re: Google Chrome extentions

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Is there a addon that will support the reader option like in firefox?

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

hi,
Add block plus isn't an accessibility addon per say, but it wipes out all
adds, resulting in less clutter, better navigation, and better
accessibility. If you type into google add block plus for chrome, you should
find it.
On 24 May 2018, at 10:16 pm, Shannon <shannon@bartchroofing.com> wrote:

I have never added anything of the kind to a browser ever. I have however
become ever so much annoyed by all the Adds!
I thought I would take a look at the add blocker accessability extensions.
I tried to get the Add Block Pluss but I think I got the wrong one.
How do I tell if I have successfully added an extension? If I have the
wrong one how do I get rid of it?
Thanks
Shannon

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of g melconian
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:44 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

Thast what I use.nothing has been abl eot beat hat one.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:31 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

I would highly! recommend add block plus. that's pretty much all I have
besides the sound effects, works like a charm.

On 23/05/2018 06:30 PM, Don H wrote:
Are there other recommended extensions for Google Chrome for us who
use screen readers?













Re: Google Chrome extentions

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

hi,
Add block plus isn't an accessibility addon per say, but it wipes out all adds, resulting in less clutter, better navigation, and better accessibility. If you type into google add block plus for chrome, you should find it.

On 24 May 2018, at 10:16 pm, Shannon <shannon@bartchroofing.com> wrote:

I have never added anything of the kind to a browser ever. I have however become ever so much annoyed by all the Adds!
I thought I would take a look at the add blocker accessability extensions. I tried to get the Add Block Pluss but I think I got the wrong one.
How do I tell if I have successfully added an extension? If I have the wrong one how do I get rid of it?
Thanks
Shannon

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of g melconian
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:44 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

Thast what I use.nothing has been abl eot beat hat one.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:31 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

I would highly! recommend add block plus. that's pretty much all I have besides the sound effects, works like a charm.

On 23/05/2018 06:30 PM, Don H wrote:
Are there other recommended extensions for Google Chrome for us who
use screen readers?













Re: Google Chrome extentions

Shannon
 

I have never added anything of the kind to a browser ever. I have however become ever so much annoyed by all the Adds!
I thought I would take a look at the add blocker accessability extensions. I tried to get the Add Block Pluss but I think I got the wrong one.
How do I tell if I have successfully added an extension? If I have the wrong one how do I get rid of it?
Thanks
Shannon

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of g melconian
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:44 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

Thast what I use.nothing has been abl eot beat hat one.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:31 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Google Chrome extentions

I would highly! recommend add block plus. that's pretty much all I have besides the sound effects, works like a charm.

On 23/05/2018 06:30 PM, Don H wrote:
Are there other recommended extensions for Google Chrome for us who
use screen readers?