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Hello Tyler,
I am currently using Explorer++, not because I have tried
other Windows Explorer alternatives and found this one to be the best, but
because of sheer laziness -- this was the first one that I found that was
reported to be both minimalistic and portable, and as I just found out,
open-source. having tried it out, and finding that it let me navigate through
folders and files rapidly and without lag from NVDA, I just have not tried any
others since. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I found it by skimming through this
article.
Note that there are some weird quirks that you should get used to. The first
that comes to mind is that if you have no file or folder selected and press
Applications or Shift+F10, the program crashes -- I usually end up doing this by
accident and have adapted to it. The second is if you rename multiple files, you
do not get the same dialog that you would normally get with Windows Explorer,
but rather a mass rename dialog. You can use their substitution variables, but
it does take some getting used to if you're used to the way Windows Explorer
handles things.
Also, I'm using the release version from the website and not from the GitHub project page, so
any other oddities I may have noticed from time to time may have been resolved
there.
Hope this helps and sorry for the late response,
Timothy
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Hi,
This is very interesting.
What explorer alternative did you find that worked for you?
Thanks a ton
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Hi, Joseph,
I say we let the thread go quietly and with civility. We have better things to do than to argue over whether a laptop is a piece of junk or not.
Rosemarie
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Hi all,
After reading comments on this thread for a while and gathering data, I’m seriously considering closing this thread not only because of potential for misinformation floating around, but also there are more
important tasks for us to do (starting tonight).
I’d like to offer three options for you all to choose from:
- Let it go quietly (and with civility).
- Let the person who is giving “interesting claims” provide backup evidence such as links to online articles (particularly with the claim that 300 dollars computers are more susceptible to
melting and such).
- Let the discussion continue somewhere else if the tone is not civil.
We’re at the eve of the debut of a Windows 10 feature update, and folks might not be ready to be bombarded with claims that cannot be verified easily while searching for desperate answers to an upgrade gone
wrong. Whichever option people choose, that is what the leadership will enact.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
Please tell me you are honest to goodness kidding about that viewpoint, because I have no words. Please tell me you have some evidence of this, as if that were the case, no one would be buying such devices, and reviews of such would quickly be an indication
-- see
this first search result as evidence of the contrary, as well as the anecdotal evidence from Tyler Wood below. If you do not wish to personally use such low-end devices, that is perfectly fine -- no one is forcing you to do so. However, please try not
to spread misinformation about as other readers of this group may decide inadvisably to take what you say as fact without doing any extra research to see if said devices are a right fit for them.
Timothy
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Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
hi,
Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.
On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi
My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine.
It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on
it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.
I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.
It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying
to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.
I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.
On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc.
On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote:
I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also,
it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer.
I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version.
I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works
as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all.
So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
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Mail for Windows 10
Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that 1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend
what is on average about $800 to $1200 you will b getting a laptop or desktop pc that will last for years .even have had one that is a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there are software packages that ar legacy applications
for windows 7 pro that cant be brought over to windows 10 pro.
I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I
never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time
on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about
$800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that
is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.
Best regards,
Sieghard
Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last
time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10,
and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.
I bought the HP Stream for $179.00
You sure can’t beat that!
I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!
David Moore
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It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?
Yes, it is SSD!
Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!
I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.
David Moore
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32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will
soon run out of space.
Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they
are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
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- Let the person who is giving “interesting claims” provide backup evidence such as links to online articles (particularly with the claim that 300 dollars computers are more susceptible to melting and such).
- Let the discussion continue somewhere else if the tone is not civil.
We’re at the eve of the debut of a Windows 10 feature update, and folks might not be ready to be bombarded with claims that cannot be verified easily while searching for desperate answers to an upgrade gone wrong. Whichever option people choose, that is what the leadership will enact. Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Timothy via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 8:53 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: Please tell me you are honest to goodness kidding about that viewpoint, because I have no words. Please tell me you have some evidence of this, as if that were the case, no one would be buying such devices, and reviews of such would quickly be an indication -- see this first search result as evidence of the contrary, as well as the anecdotal evidence from Tyler Wood below. If you do not wish to personally use such low-end devices, that is perfectly fine -- no one is forcing you to do so. However, please try not to spread misinformation about as other readers of this group may decide inadvisably to take what you say as fact without doing any extra research to see if said devices are a right fit for them. Timothy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: hi, Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not being able to handle load. On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote: Hi My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine. It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power. I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years. It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems. I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy. On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote: not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc. On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote: I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer. I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version. I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all. So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer. Take care, guys! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that 1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on average about $800 to $1200 you will b getting a laptop or desktop pc that will last for years .even have had one that is a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there are software packages that ar legacy applications for windows 7 pro that cant be brought over to windows 10 pro. I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD. Best regards, Sieghard Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite. Kenny Peyatt jr. I forgot to tell you how cheap it was. I bought the HP Stream for $179.00 You sure can’t beat that! I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD. Kenny Peyatt jr. Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it? Yes, it is SSD! Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL! I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space. Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor. Kenny Peyatt jr.
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Actually for that price you can by a bear bones system which you would ad the rest to. I don’t se what’s wrong with that one.i actually know of someone in family who is a tech guy who would buy bear bones system for that price to about $500 and ptu the rest as he needed to ad on later down the road.he is a linux programmer.
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Hi,
Let's break this down a little.
First, You wrote:
Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most
daily tasks.
This is such a profoundly *false* statement I can't even find
words.
1. You haven't used one of these in recent years. No really, you
haven't. Say you have no interest, but please don't throw
atrociously ridiculous statements like this out there without the
ability to back them up, giving potential buyers misleading
information. Browsing the internet using chrome or firefox with
both NVDA and jaws, general word processing tasks (and I include
microsoft office in here), running mozilla thunderbird, dropbox,
and media players is perfectly doable. In particular, the new
pentium processors are very capable and useable.
2. Don't believe me, check out notebookcheck. Speaking of them!
Second statement:
I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or
exploded from not being able to handle load.
Even more false. These cheap pc's are fanless and generate
minuscule amounts of heat. My t100 very rarely reaches 45 c and
this is under load. I'd more aptly say that these expensive pc's
with i7 processors are lible to explode and melt. With these 8th
gen processors, there is a ton of underclocking going on under
load to prevent the pc from being uncomfortable on the lap and run
cool. Still, temperatures can at times be in excess of 70-90 c
before this happens.
Do research before throwing these statements around, please.
Again, may I refer you to notebookcheck, in particular their most
recent reviews.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Reviews.55.0.html
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On 29-Apr-2018 6:59 PM, enes sarıbaş
wrote:
hi,
Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most
daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated,
melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.
On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood
wrote:
Hi
My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer
runs office just fine.
It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put
it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also
get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It
runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team
talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10
hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.
I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know
my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I
have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1
or 2 years.
It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to
find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but
there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking
about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone
is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice
performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it
seems.
I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I
can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website.
Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.
On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes
sarıbaş wrote:
not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office,
or another high end program, for work or school. In this
situation, you need another pc.
On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore
wrote:
I have had my HP Stream for over four
years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it
because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close
programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks
you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf
the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use
many on line services, and play music. That is all I do
with that computer.
I should have made that clear that I
don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and
such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a
portable version.
I use many portable programs that run
from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the
computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example,
runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my
installed version on my big computer. I use programs
like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and
many other portable programs that do not get installed
onto the computer at all.
So, there are many variables here in
terms of what you need to actually install and run on
your computer.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Same here, have not had any
issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap
trash you will be putting that trash out the door in
that 1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is
on average about $800 to $1200 you will b getting a
laptop or desktop pc that will last for years .even
have had one that is a good 9 years old an still
running in the office on windows 7 pro as there are
software packages that ar legacy applications for
windows 7 pro that cant be brought over to windows
10 pro.
I guess if these
cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end
processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you
than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a
computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to
when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at
my business which has been running pretty much 24
hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing
time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for
over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it
was a basic business desktop built by the computer
store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At
the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized
desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the
time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness
because they are so convenient, use relatively little
power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC
and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were
about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or
I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256
Gb SSD.
Best regards,
Sieghard
Since Microsoft office will
take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will
take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300
dollars either for a computer either. The last time I
did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line,
and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And
after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to
wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and
back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it
worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and
die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller
laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite
brands, with acer being the least favorite.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
I forgot to tell you how cheap it
was.
I bought the HP Stream for $179.00
You sure can’t beat that!
I will never pay over $300.00 for any
computer!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
It was cheap and I am wondering
if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They
had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
Is this laptop
particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?
Yes, it is SSD!
Yes, I use MS office and most
services on line, but you are right about using MS
Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring
this little baby out LOL!
I do as much on line as I can with
Google Docs and so on as well.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
32gb of storage,
if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it
is a little low, once you start to load programmes
like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of
space.
Hi I am thinking about purchasing a
hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs
of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10
downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It
has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a
intale processor.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
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Please tell me you are honest to goodness kidding about that viewpoint,
because I have no words. Please tell me you have some evidence of this, as if
that were the case, no one would be buying such devices, and reviews of such
would quickly be an indication -- see this
first search result as evidence of the contrary, as well as the anecdotal
evidence from Tyler Wood below. If you do not wish to personally use such
low-end devices, that is perfectly fine -- no one is forcing you to do so.
However, please try not to spread misinformation about as other readers of this
group may decide inadvisably to take what you say as fact without doing any
extra research to see if said devices are a right fit for them.
Timothy
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PM
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp
laptops with windows 10:
hi,
Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks.
I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not
being able to handle load.
On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi
My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office
just fine.
It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside
of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of
batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also
have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still
manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.
I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook
with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus
dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.
It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an
amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many
sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but
software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and
lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips
it seems.
I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend
the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this
kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.
On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş
wrote:
not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another
high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another
pc.
On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore
wrote:
I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it
runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many
times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the
tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net,
read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services,
and play music. That is all I do with that computer.
I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy
stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great
word processor, and it is a portable version.
I use many portable programs that run from a USB
drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version
of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as
my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A
PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs
that do not get installed onto the computer at all.
So, there are many variables here in terms of what
you need to actually install and run on your computer.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Same here, have not had any issues.you get what
you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash
out the door in that 1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what
is on average about $800 to $1200 you will b getting a
laptop or desktop pc that will last for years .even have had one
that is a good 9 years old an still running in the office on
windows 7 pro as there are software packages that ar
legacy applications for windows 7 pro that cant be brought
over to windows 10 pro.
I guess if these cheaper computers
with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM
work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer
I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire
it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty
much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on
Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in
February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the
computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time
it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me
about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my
buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power
and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s,
again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an
I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb
SSD.
Best regards,
Sieghard
Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of
space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never
pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did
that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it
at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I
decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in
2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided
to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like
smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with
acer being the least favorite.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.
I bought the HP Stream for $179.00
You sure can’t beat that!
I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why
it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it
had 180 gig SSD.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
Is this laptop particular cheap or
why would you consider buying it?
Yes, it is SSD!
Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but
you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would
start tiring this little baby out LOL!
I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so
on as well.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
32gb of storage, if you mean hd or
ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to
load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of
space.
Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with
windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a
problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released?
It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale
processor.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
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Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice
#WinTenOld
Hi, Don’t know. We’ve seen at least one case where it went out earlier (or, for that matter, some of us found out that parts of Version 1507 was downloaded on the day before the public debut). Cheers, Joseph
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 5:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803 hi joseph, Will the release be 10 a.m microsoft time again? On 4/30/2018 3:05 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi, Yes and use that method if and only if you know what you are doing. I don’t want to see yet another case of folks who did use that method and to regret that later. Cheers, Joseph Hi Joseph! If I want to take the plunge, I usually do, will there be a new media creation tool to download that will download the 1803 which is how I like to do it. I am batting a thousand, when I use the media creation tool to get it months before I would get it on my machine. Thanks a lot! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 3:53 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803 Hi everyone, As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update. Cheers, Joseph Dear Win10 forum family, Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week: For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except: - Upgrade steps.
- New feature impressions.
- Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
- Any admin notices.
During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803. Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later. Thank you for your cooperation. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice
#WinTenOld
hi joseph,
Will the release be 10 a.m microsoft time again?
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 4/30/2018 3:05 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes and use that method if and only if you
know what you are doing. I don’t want to see yet another case
of folks who did use that method and to regret that later.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hi Joseph!
If I want to take the plunge, I usually do,
will there be a new media creation tool to download that will
download the 1803 which is how I like to do it. I am batting a
thousand, when I use the media creation tool to get it months
before I would get it on my machine.
Thanks a lot!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 3:53 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period:
April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803
Hi everyone,
As a follow-up to several questions and
comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective
midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99
percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows
up on Windows Update.
Cheers,
Joseph
Dear Win10 forum family,
Not long ago you may have seen a post from
me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018
Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what
will happen next week:
For the first 72 hours after release of a
Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter
critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this
forum will be suspended except:
- Upgrade
steps.
- New
feature impressions.
- Major
and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and
Windows Insiders.
- Any
admin notices.
During this time Microsoft staff and screen
reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary
moderator status so they can assist you through various means.
Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute
advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders
(a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version
1803.
Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent
not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices
will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual
Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re
doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update
presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10,
Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to
everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get
this feature update later.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice
#WinTenOld
Hi, Yes and use that method if and only if you know what you are doing. I don’t want to see yet another case of folks who did use that method and to regret that later. Cheers, Joseph
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 4:39 PM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803 Hi Joseph! If I want to take the plunge, I usually do, will there be a new media creation tool to download that will download the 1803 which is how I like to do it. I am batting a thousand, when I use the media creation tool to get it months before I would get it on my machine. Thanks a lot! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 3:53 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803 Hi everyone, As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update. Cheers, Joseph Dear Win10 forum family, Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week: For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except: - Upgrade steps.
- New feature impressions.
- Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
- Any admin notices.
During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803. Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later. Thank you for your cooperation. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
hi,
I use a 120 gb ssd in my toshiba laptop. If you use an external,
that is more than enough for most things.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 4/29/2018 9:05 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr.
wrote:
It seems the
smaller laptops get the less amount of space you get. I
found a hp laptop that had a 14 inch screen but only had 128
gigs of starage. That probbally would not be enough space
for windows10 upgrades.
Kenny Peyatt
jr.
I guess if these cheaper
computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the
bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the
other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up
the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just
replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty
much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing
time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10
years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic
business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada
where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of
the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about
$800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my
buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively
little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC
and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about
$800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12
or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.
Best regards,
Sieghard
Since Microsoft
office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice
will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300
dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did
that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had
vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of
putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and
install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to
windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up
the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like
smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite
brands, with acer being the least favorite.
Kenny Peyatt
jr.
I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.
I bought the HP Stream for $179.00
You sure can’t beat that!
I will never pay over $300.00 for any
computer!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
It was cheap
and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of
storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig
SSD.
Kenny Peyatt
jr.
Is this laptop
particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?
Yes, it is SSD!
Yes, I use MS office and most services on
line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer.
That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!
I do as much on line as I can with Google
Docs and so on as well.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
32gb
of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally
that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes
like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.
Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp
laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of
storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads
feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch
screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
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Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
hi,
Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most
daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated,
melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood
wrote:
Hi
My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer
runs office just fine.
It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put
it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also
get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It
runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk
on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All
of this while using 4 watts of power.
I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know
my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have
also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2
years.
It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find
an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there
are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about
port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is
trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance
in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.
I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't
extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor
quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.
On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş
wrote:
not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office,
or another high end program, for work or school. In this
situation, you need another pc.
On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore
wrote:
I have had my HP Stream for over four
years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it
because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs
and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a
computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read
articles, send and receive email, and use many on line
services, and play music. That is all I do with that
computer.
I should have made that clear that I
don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and
such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a
portable version.
I use many portable programs that run
from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the
computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example,
runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my
installed version on my big computer. I use programs like
TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many
other portable programs that do not get installed onto the
computer at all.
So, there are many variables here in
terms of what you need to actually install and run on your
computer.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Same here, have not had any
issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap
trash you will be putting that trash out the door in
that 1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on
average about $800 to $1200 you will b getting a
laptop or desktop pc that will last for years .even
have had one that is a good 9 years old an still
running in the office on windows 7 pro as there are
software packages that ar legacy applications for
windows 7 pro that cant be brought over to windows 10
pro.
I guess if these
cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end
processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than
that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I
bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I
decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my
business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a
day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on
Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10
years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a
basic business desktop built by the computer store here
in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it
was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and
which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy
only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so
convenient, use relatively little power and are
virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite
mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian,
but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of
RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.
Best regards,
Sieghard
Since Microsoft office will take
up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up
a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either
for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a
refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on
it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting
up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and
install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to
windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give
up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self
like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my
favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.
I bought the HP Stream for $179.00
You sure can’t beat that!
I will never pay over $300.00 for any
computer!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
It was cheap and I am wondering
if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had
one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
Is this laptop
particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?
Yes, it is SSD!
Yes, I use MS office and most services
on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the
computer. That probably would start tiring this little
baby out LOL!
I do as much on line as I can with
Google Docs and so on as well.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
32gb of storage, if
you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a
little low, once you start to load programmes like
Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.
Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp
laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of
storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads
feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch
screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale
processor.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
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Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice
#WinTenOld
Hi Joseph! If I want to take the plunge, I usually do, will there be a new media creation tool to download that will download the 1803 which is how I like to do it. I am batting a thousand, when I use the media creation tool to get it months before I would get it on my machine. Thanks a lot! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Joseph LeeSent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 3:53 PM To: win10@groups.ioSubject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803 Hi everyone, As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update. Cheers, Joseph From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:45 AM
To: 'win10@groups.io' <win10@groups.io>
Subject: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018 #AdminNotice #WinTen1803 Dear Win10 forum family, Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week: For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except: - Upgrade steps.
- New feature impressions.
- Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
- Any admin notices.
During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803. Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later. Thank you for your cooperation. Cheers, Joseph
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re will there be a windows media creator tool for 1803 for 32 and 64 bit
Hello I am wondering will there be a windows media creator tool for 1803 and will that also be available on april 30 or will that go live after that date. Just wondering so if I do decide to do a 1803 upgrade if things go wrong I can at least get back up and running with the windows media creator tool.
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Hi everyone, As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update. Cheers, Joseph
From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:45 AM To: 'win10@groups.io' <win10@groups.io> Subject: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018 #AdminNotice #WinTen1803 Dear Win10 forum family, Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week: For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except: - Upgrade steps.
- New feature impressions.
- Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
- Any admin notices.
During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803. Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later. Thank you for your cooperation. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: log on, log off and shut down sounds, was there ever a solution?
The Windows Start sound is easy, just make sure fast startup is turned off and enable the Windows Startup sound in Sound settings.
The shutdown sound has to be set up as an elevated task using the task scheduler. Here are the steps which were posted and which worked for me although while it plays most of the time on my Asus Zenbook it doesn't do so 100%:
Starting in Windows 8, the Windows Shutdown sound event has been disabled. This leaves you unable to change or play the Windows Shutdown sound when a user selects to shut down the PC in Windows 10. As a workaround, you can still create an elevated task to play a sound at shutdown Windows 10.
This tutorial will show you how to play a sound at shutdown for all users in Windows 10.
You must be signed in as an administrator to create an elevated task. Here's How:
1. Press the Win+R keys to open Run, type taskschd.msc into Run, and click/tap on OK to open Task Scheduler.
2. Click/tap on Task Scheduler Library in the left pane of Task Scheduler, and click/tap on Create Task in the right Actions pane.
3. In the General tab, type a name (ex: "Play shutdown sound") you want for this task.
4. In the General tab, select Run whether user is logged on or not.
5. In the General tab, check the Run with highest privileges box.
6. In the General tab, select Windows 10 in the Configure for drop down.
7. Click/tap on the Triggers tab, and click/tap on the New button.
8. Perform the actions below:
A) Select "On an event" in the Begin the task drop down.
B) Select "System" in the Log drop down.
C) Type "1074" (user initiated shutdown) in the Event ID drop down, and click/tap on OK.
9. Click/tap on the Actions tab, and click/tap on the New button.
10. Perform the actions below:
A) Select Start a program in the Action drop down.
B) Type "PowerShell" in the Program/script field box.
C) Enter the command below into the Add arguments field box, and click/tap on OK.
-c (New-Object Media.SoundPlayer 'C:\Windows\Media\Windows Shutdown.wav').PlaySync();
Note: If you wanted to play a sound (.wav file) of your choice instead, you can substitute C:\Windows\Media\Windows Shutdown.wav in the command above with the full path of the .wav file you want to be played.
11. Click/tap on the Conditions tab, uncheck the "Start the task only if the computer is on AC power" and click/tap on OK.
12. You will be prompted to enter your account's password, do so and click/tap on OK.
The "Play Shutdown Sound" task is now finished, and will now play a sound when the PC is shutdown.
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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 11:37 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] log on, log off and shut down sounds, was there ever a solution?
hi all,
after hours and hours of getting nowhere, my question is in the subject line. I have already tweeked the registry, and the sounds show up in the control panel. I have also assigned them their respective sounds, but still, when I power on or off, no sounds. also tried setting a task, tried tweeking things, but no joy. did anyone ever get this to work, and if so, would it please be possible to share the secret of it?
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log on, log off and shut down sounds, was there ever a solution?
Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
hi all,
after hours and hours of getting nowhere, my question is in the subject line. I have already tweeked the registry, and the sounds show up in the control panel. I have also assigned them their respective sounds, but still, when I power on or off, no sounds. also tried setting a task, tried tweeking things, but no joy. did anyone ever get this to work, and if so, would it please be possible to share the secret of it?
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Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
hi,
gotta agree. built quality has recently decreased, and sometimes the latest isn't the greatest. I had a sandy bridge latitude flip over and die. my lanovo that I bought recently failed the user bench mark test entirely. both the above were windows 10. so now, back to a 6 year old, falling apart samsung, which I attempted to replace 3 times. I also saw an article on twitter, where the $2000 dell kept failing, and dell tech support wasn't helpful at all. these days, it all depends on luck.
PS. this 6 year old i3 has no signs of slow downs, scores 80% on the bench mark tests...
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On 29/04/2018 08:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote: Hi
My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine.
It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.
I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.
It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.
I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.
On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc.
On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote:
I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer.
I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version.
I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all.
So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
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*From: *g melconian <mailto:gmelconian619@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:36 PM
*To: *win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that 1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on average about $800 to $1200 you will b getting a laptop or desktop pc that will last for years .even have had one that is a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there are software packages that ar legacy applications for windows 7 pro that cant be brought over to windows 10 pro.
*From:* win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:35 AM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.
Best regards,
Sieghard
*From:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> <win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Kenny Peyattt jr.
*Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 6:12 PM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
*From:*win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Moore
*Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 8:30 PM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.
I bought the HP Stream for $179.00
You sure can’t beat that!
I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!
David Moore
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*From: *Kenny Peyattt jr. <mailto:p.wildcat1234@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 PM
*To: *win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
*From:*win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 8:14 AM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?
*From:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> <win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *David Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:31 PM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
Yes, it is SSD!
Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!
I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.
David Moore
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*From: *Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io <mailto:steven.hicks=nhs.net@groups.io>
*Sent: *Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 AM
*To: *win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.
*From:*win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Kenny Peyattt jr.
*Sent:* 26 April 2018 22:14
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:
Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
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