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Re: jaws vs nvda

Timothy
 

Hello Tyler,
I am currently using Explorer++, not because I have tried other Windows Explorer alternatives and found this one to be the best, but because of sheer laziness -- this was the first one that I found that was reported to be both minimalistic and portable, and as I just found out, open-source. having tried it out, and finding that it let me navigate through folders and files rapidly and without lag from NVDA, I just have not tried any others since. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I found it by skimming through this article.

Note that there are some weird quirks that you should get used to. The first that comes to mind is that if you have no file or folder selected and press Applications or Shift+F10, the program crashes -- I usually end up doing this by accident and have adapted to it. The second is if you rename multiple files, you do not get the same dialog that you would normally get with Windows Explorer, but rather a mass rename dialog. You can use their substitution variables, but it does take some getting used to if you're used to the way Windows Explorer handles things.

Also, I'm using the release version from the website and not from the GitHub project page, so any other oddities I may have noticed from time to time may have been resolved there.

Hope this helps and sorry for the late response,
Timothy

----- Original Message -----
From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] jaws vs nvda

Hi,

This is very interesting.

What explorer alternative did you find that worked for you?


Thanks a ton


Re: Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

 

Hi,

There is a reason for locking that thread: to avoid a situation where someone responded while an official decision has been made (this has happened before numerous times). Most threads die quietly, but for a thread that is in the verge of being filled with misinformation and unverified claims, it is necessary to do something more drastic.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 9:18 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

 

Let it end on its own.  There is no need to lock the thread.  There is such a thing as too much moderation

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 12:11 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

 

Hi all,

As of this moment, the thread under discussion has been locked until official decision is made. Thanks.


Re: Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

Dennis L
 

Let it end on its own.  There is no need to lock the thread.  There is such a thing as too much moderation

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 12:11 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

 

Hi all,

As of this moment, the thread under discussion has been locked until official decision is made. Thanks.


Re: Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

 

Hi all,

As of this moment, the thread under discussion has been locked until official decision is made. Thanks.


Re: Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

Rosemarie Chavarria <baseballnut23@...>
 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I say we let the thread go quietly and with civility. We have better things to do than to argue over whether a laptop is a piece of junk or not.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 9:04 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

 

Hi all,

After reading comments on this thread for a while and gathering data, I’m seriously considering closing this thread not only because of potential for misinformation floating around, but also there are more important tasks for us to do (starting tonight).

I’d like to offer three options for you all to choose from:

  1. Let it go quietly (and with civility).
  2. Let the person who is giving “interesting claims” provide backup evidence such as links to online articles (particularly with the claim that 300 dollars computers are more susceptible to melting and such).
  3. Let the discussion continue somewhere else if the tone is not civil.

 

We’re at the eve of the debut of a Windows 10 feature update, and folks might not be ready to be bombarded with claims that cannot be verified easily while searching for desperate answers to an upgrade gone wrong. Whichever option people choose, that is what the leadership will enact.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Timothy via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 8:53 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Please tell me you are honest to goodness kidding about that viewpoint, because I have no words. Please tell me you have some evidence of this, as if that were the case, no one would be buying such devices, and reviews of such would quickly be an indication -- see this first search result as evidence of the contrary, as well as the anecdotal evidence from Tyler Wood below.  If you do not wish to personally use such low-end devices, that is perfectly fine -- no one is forcing you to do so. However, please try not to spread misinformation about as other readers of this group may decide inadvisably to take what you say as fact without doing any extra research to see if said devices are a right fit for them.

Timothy

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:59 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

hi,

Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.

 

On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi

My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine.

It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.

I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.

 

It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.

 

I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.

 

 

On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc.

 

On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote:

I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer.

I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version.

I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all.

So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer.

Take care, guys!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: g melconian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:36 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that  1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on average about $800 to $1200  you will b getting  a laptop or desktop  pc that will last for years .even have had one that is   a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there  are  software packages that  ar legacy  applications for windows 7 pro that  cant be brought over to  windows 10 pro. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:35 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:12 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:30 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.

I bought the HP Stream for $179.00

You sure can’t beat that!

I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:31 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Yes, it is SSD!

Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!

I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: 26 April 2018 22:14
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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Head list representative is on his way: RE: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10: #AdminNotice

 

Hi all,

After reading comments on this thread for a while and gathering data, I’m seriously considering closing this thread not only because of potential for misinformation floating around, but also there are more important tasks for us to do (starting tonight).

I’d like to offer three options for you all to choose from:

  1. Let it go quietly (and with civility).
  2. Let the person who is giving “interesting claims” provide backup evidence such as links to online articles (particularly with the claim that 300 dollars computers are more susceptible to melting and such).
  3. Let the discussion continue somewhere else if the tone is not civil.

 

We’re at the eve of the debut of a Windows 10 feature update, and folks might not be ready to be bombarded with claims that cannot be verified easily while searching for desperate answers to an upgrade gone wrong. Whichever option people choose, that is what the leadership will enact.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Timothy via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 8:53 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Please tell me you are honest to goodness kidding about that viewpoint, because I have no words. Please tell me you have some evidence of this, as if that were the case, no one would be buying such devices, and reviews of such would quickly be an indication -- see this first search result as evidence of the contrary, as well as the anecdotal evidence from Tyler Wood below.  If you do not wish to personally use such low-end devices, that is perfectly fine -- no one is forcing you to do so. However, please try not to spread misinformation about as other readers of this group may decide inadvisably to take what you say as fact without doing any extra research to see if said devices are a right fit for them.

Timothy

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:59 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

hi,

Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.

 

On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi

My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine.

It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.

I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.

 

It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.

 

I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.

 

 

On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc.

 

On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote:

I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer.

I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version.

I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all.

So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer.

Take care, guys!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: g melconian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:36 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that  1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on average about $800 to $1200  you will b getting  a laptop or desktop  pc that will last for years .even have had one that is   a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there  are  software packages that  ar legacy  applications for windows 7 pro that  cant be brought over to  windows 10 pro. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:35 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:12 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:30 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.

I bought the HP Stream for $179.00

You sure can’t beat that!

I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:31 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Yes, it is SSD!

Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!

I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: 26 April 2018 22:14
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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locked Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

g melconian
 

Actually for that  price you can by a bear bones system  which you would ad the rest  to.  I don’t se what’s wrong with that  one.i actually know of  someone in family who is a tech guy who would buy bear bones system for that price  to about $500 and ptu the rest  as he needed to ad on later down the road.he is a linux programmer.  


locked Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

Let's break this down a little.

First, You wrote:

Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks.


This is such a profoundly *false* statement I can't even find words.


1. You haven't used one of these in recent years. No really, you haven't. Say you have no interest, but please don't throw atrociously ridiculous statements like this out there without the ability to back them up, giving potential buyers misleading information. Browsing the internet using chrome or firefox with both NVDA and jaws, general word processing tasks (and I include microsoft office in here), running mozilla thunderbird, dropbox, and media players is perfectly doable. In particular, the new pentium processors are very capable and useable.

2. Don't believe me, check out notebookcheck. Speaking of them!


Second statement:

I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.

Even more false. These cheap pc's are fanless and generate minuscule amounts of heat. My t100 very rarely reaches 45 c and this is under load. I'd more aptly say that these expensive pc's with i7 processors are lible to explode and melt. With these 8th gen processors, there is a ton of underclocking going on under load to prevent the pc from being uncomfortable on the lap and run cool. Still, temperatures can at times be in excess of 70-90 c before this happens.


Do research before throwing these statements around, please. Again, may I refer you to notebookcheck, in particular their most recent reviews.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Reviews.55.0.html



On 29-Apr-2018 6:59 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

hi,

Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.


On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi

My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine.

It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.

I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.


It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.


I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.



On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc.


On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote:

I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer.

I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version.

I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all.

So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer.

Take care, guys!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: g melconian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:36 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that  1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on average about $800 to $1200  you will b getting  a laptop or desktop  pc that will last for years .even have had one that is   a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there  are  software packages that  ar legacy  applications for windows 7 pro that  cant be brought over to  windows 10 pro. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:35 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:12 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:30 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.

I bought the HP Stream for $179.00

You sure can’t beat that!

I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:31 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Yes, it is SSD!

Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!

I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: 26 April 2018 22:14
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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locked Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

Timothy
 



Please tell me you are honest to goodness kidding about that viewpoint, because I have no words. Please tell me you have some evidence of this, as if that were the case, no one would be buying such devices, and reviews of such would quickly be an indication -- see this first search result as evidence of the contrary, as well as the anecdotal evidence from Tyler Wood below.  If you do not wish to personally use such low-end devices, that is perfectly fine -- no one is forcing you to do so. However, please try not to spread misinformation about as other readers of this group may decide inadvisably to take what you say as fact without doing any extra research to see if said devices are a right fit for them.

Timothy

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

hi,

Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.


On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi

My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine.

It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.

I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.


It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.


I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.



On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc.


On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote:

I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer.

I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version.

I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all.

So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer.

Take care, guys!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: g melconian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:36 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that  1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on average about $800 to $1200  you will b getting  a laptop or desktop  pc that will last for years .even have had one that is   a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there  are  software packages that  ar legacy  applications for windows 7 pro that  cant be brought over to  windows 10 pro. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:35 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:12 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:30 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.

I bought the HP Stream for $179.00

You sure can’t beat that!

I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:31 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Yes, it is SSD!

Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!

I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: 26 April 2018 22:14
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTenOld

 

Hi,

Don’t know. We’ve seen at least one case where it went out earlier (or, for that matter, some of us found out that parts of Version 1507 was downloaded on the day before the public debut).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 5:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

hi joseph,

Will the release be 10 a.m microsoft time again?

 

On 4/30/2018 3:05 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Yes and use that method if and only if you know what you are doing. I don’t want to see yet another case of folks who did use that method and to regret that later.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 4:39 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Hi Joseph!

If I want to take the plunge, I usually do, will there be a new media creation tool to download that will download the 1803 which is how I like to do it. I am batting a thousand, when I use the media creation tool to get it months before I would get it on my machine.

Thanks a lot!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 3:53 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Hi everyone,

As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:45 AM
To: 'win10@groups.io' <win10@groups.io>
Subject: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018 #AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Dear Win10 forum family,

 

Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week:

 

For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except:

 

  • Upgrade steps.
  • New feature impressions.
  • Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
  • Any admin notices.

 

During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803.

 

Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTenOld

enes sarıbaş
 

hi joseph,

Will the release be 10 a.m microsoft time again?


On 4/30/2018 3:05 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Yes and use that method if and only if you know what you are doing. I don’t want to see yet another case of folks who did use that method and to regret that later.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 4:39 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Hi Joseph!

If I want to take the plunge, I usually do, will there be a new media creation tool to download that will download the 1803 which is how I like to do it. I am batting a thousand, when I use the media creation tool to get it months before I would get it on my machine.

Thanks a lot!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 3:53 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Hi everyone,

As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:45 AM
To: 'win10@groups.io' <win10@groups.io>
Subject: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018 #AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Dear Win10 forum family,

 

Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week:

 

For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except:

 

  • Upgrade steps.
  • New feature impressions.
  • Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
  • Any admin notices.

 

During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803.

 

Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

Cheers,

Joseph

 



Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTenOld

 

Hi,

Yes and use that method if and only if you know what you are doing. I don’t want to see yet another case of folks who did use that method and to regret that later.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 4:39 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Hi Joseph!

If I want to take the plunge, I usually do, will there be a new media creation tool to download that will download the 1803 which is how I like to do it. I am batting a thousand, when I use the media creation tool to get it months before I would get it on my machine.

Thanks a lot!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 3:53 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Hi everyone,

As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:45 AM
To: 'win10@groups.io' <win10@groups.io>
Subject: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018 #AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Dear Win10 forum family,

 

Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week:

 

For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except:

 

  • Upgrade steps.
  • New feature impressions.
  • Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
  • Any admin notices.

 

During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803.

 

Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


locked Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

I use a 120 gb ssd in my toshiba laptop. If you use an external, that is more than enough for most things.


On 4/29/2018 9:05 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

 

It seems the smaller laptops get the less amount of space you get. I found a hp laptop that had a 14 inch screen but only had 128 gigs of starage. That probbally would not be enough space for windows10 upgrades.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:35 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:12 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:30 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.

I bought the HP Stream for $179.00

You sure can’t beat that!

I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!

David Moore

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From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:31 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Yes, it is SSD!

Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!

I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: 26 April 2018 22:14
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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locked Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

Such 300 dollar pcs, are not even up to the job of doing most daily tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if such a pc overheated, melted or exploded from not being able to handle load.


On 4/29/2018 10:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi

My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine.

It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.

I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.


It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.


I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.



On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc.


On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote:

I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer.

I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version.

I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all.

So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer.

Take care, guys!

David Moore

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From: g melconian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:36 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that  1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on average about $800 to $1200  you will b getting  a laptop or desktop  pc that will last for years .even have had one that is   a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there  are  software packages that  ar legacy  applications for windows 7 pro that  cant be brought over to  windows 10 pro. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:35 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:12 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:30 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.

I bought the HP Stream for $179.00

You sure can’t beat that!

I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:14 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:31 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Yes, it is SSD!

Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!

I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.

David Moore

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From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: 26 April 2018 22:14
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

 

Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTenOld

David Moore
 

Hi Joseph!

If I want to take the plunge, I usually do, will there be a new media creation tool to download that will download the 1803 which is how I like to do it. I am batting a thousand, when I use the media creation tool to get it months before I would get it on my machine.

Thanks a lot!

David Moore

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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 3:53 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018#AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Hi everyone,

As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:45 AM
To: 'win10@groups.io' <win10@groups.io>
Subject: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018 #AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Dear Win10 forum family,

 

Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week:

 

For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except:

 

  • Upgrade steps.
  • New feature impressions.
  • Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
  • Any admin notices.

 

During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803.

 

Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


re will there be a windows media creator tool for 1803 for 32 and 64 bit

g melconian
 

Hello I am wondering will there  be a  windows media creator tool for 1803 and will that  also be available on april 30 or will that  go live after that date. Just wondering so if I do decide to  do a 1803 upgrade if things go wrong I can at least get back up and running with the windows media creator tool. 


Re: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018 #AdminNotice #WinTenOld

 

Hi everyone,

As a follow-up to several questions and comments: we’ll enter Version 1803 critical period effective midnight Pacific Daylight Time on April 30, 2018. For 99 percent of you, you should wait until the feature update shows up on Windows Update.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:45 AM
To: 'win10@groups.io' <win10@groups.io>
Subject: Version 1803 critical period: April 30 to May 2, 2018 #AdminNotice #WinTen1803

 

Dear Win10 forum family,

 

Not long ago you may have seen a post from me detailing what will happen once Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) hits the air. This is a summary reminder as to what will happen next week:

 

For the first 72 hours after release of a Windows 10 feature update, this forum cluster will enter critical standby period. Effectively, all activity on this forum will be suspended except:

 

  • Upgrade steps.
  • New feature impressions.
  • Major and critical advisories from screen reader vendors and Windows Insiders.
  • Any admin notices.

 

During this time Microsoft staff and screen reader vendor representatives will be elevated to temporary moderator status so they can assist you through various means. Please pay attention to words from them as they may distribute advisories you need to follow. I have asked Windows Insiders (a few weeks ago) to help you learn new things in Version 1803.

 

Also, as noted on the calendar invite sent not long ago, April 30th is the day first wave devices will receive feature update to Version 1803 (Semi-Annual Channel Targeted). Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, please hold off upgrading until Windows Update presents an item called “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1803”. In summer, this update will be pushed out to everyone (including businesses), and even then, you may get this feature update later.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: log on, log off and shut down sounds, was there ever a solution?

 

The Windows Start sound is easy, just make sure fast startup is turned off and enable the Windows Startup sound in Sound settings.
The shutdown sound has to be set up as an elevated task using the task scheduler. Here are the steps which were posted and which worked for me although while it plays most of the time on my Asus Zenbook it doesn't do so 100%:

Starting in Windows 8, the Windows Shutdown sound event has been disabled. This leaves you unable to change or play the Windows Shutdown sound when a user selects to shut down the PC in Windows 10. As a workaround, you can still create an elevated task to play a sound at shutdown Windows 10.
This tutorial will show you how to play a sound at shutdown for all users in Windows 10.
You must be signed in as an administrator to create an elevated task. Here's How:

1. Press the Win+R keys to open Run, type taskschd.msc into Run, and click/tap on OK to open Task Scheduler.
2. Click/tap on Task Scheduler Library in the left pane of Task Scheduler, and click/tap on Create Task in the right Actions pane.
3. In the General tab, type a name (ex: "Play shutdown sound") you want for this task.
4. In the General tab, select Run whether user is logged on or not.
5. In the General tab, check the Run with highest privileges box.
6. In the General tab, select Windows 10 in the Configure for drop down.
7. Click/tap on the Triggers tab, and click/tap on the New button.
8. Perform the actions below:
A) Select "On an event" in the Begin the task drop down.
B) Select "System" in the Log drop down.
C) Type "1074" (user initiated shutdown) in the Event ID drop down, and click/tap on OK.
9. Click/tap on the Actions tab, and click/tap on the New button.
10. Perform the actions below:
A) Select Start a program in the Action drop down.
B) Type "PowerShell" in the Program/script field box.
C) Enter the command below into the Add arguments field box, and click/tap on OK.
-c (New-Object Media.SoundPlayer 'C:\Windows\Media\Windows Shutdown.wav').PlaySync();
Note: If you wanted to play a sound (.wav file) of your choice instead, you can substitute C:\Windows\Media\Windows Shutdown.wav in the command above with the full path of the .wav file you want to be played.
11. Click/tap on the Conditions tab, uncheck the "Start the task only if the computer is on AC power" and click/tap on OK.
12. You will be prompted to enter your account's password, do so and click/tap on OK.
The "Play Shutdown Sound" task is now finished, and will now play a sound when the PC is shutdown.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 11:37 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] log on, log off and shut down sounds, was there ever a solution?

hi all,
after hours and hours of getting nowhere, my question is in the subject line. I have already tweeked the registry, and the sounds show up in the control panel. I have also assigned them their respective sounds, but still, when I power on or off, no sounds. also tried setting a task, tried tweeking things, but no joy. did anyone ever get this to work, and if so, would it please be possible to share the secret of it?


log on, log off and shut down sounds, was there ever a solution?

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

hi all,
after hours and hours of getting nowhere, my question is in the subject line. I have already tweeked the registry, and the sounds show up in the control panel. I have also assigned them their respective sounds, but still, when I power on or off, no sounds. also tried setting a task, tried tweeking things, but no joy. did anyone ever get this to work, and if so, would it please be possible to share the secret of it?


locked Re: thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

hi,
gotta agree. built quality has recently decreased, and sometimes the latest isn't the greatest. I had a sandy bridge latitude flip over and die. my lanovo that I bought recently failed the user bench mark test entirely. both the above were windows 10. so now, back to a 6 year old, falling apart samsung, which I attempted to replace 3 times. I also saw an article on twitter, where the $2000 dell kept failing, and dell tech support wasn't helpful at all. these days, it all depends on luck.
PS. this 6 year old i3 has no signs of slow downs, scores 80% on the bench mark tests...

On 29/04/2018 08:06 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi
My asus transformer book t100 which is a 300 dollar computer runs office just fine.
It's also a 5 year old pile of junk, as you so eloquently put it. Upside of having something with no moving parts is I also get 20 hours of batterylife and can charge with micro USB. It runs chrome just fine, I also have dropbox, skype, and team talk on it. With the screen on it still manages around 10 hours. All of this while using 4 watts of power.
I have seen 300 dollar computer last years - so far as I know my netbook with an intel atom n270 is still kicking. And I have also seen 1000 plus dollar machines give up hard after 1 or 2 years.
It seems to me these days that you really aren't going to find an amazingly built computer. The hinge might be nice, but there are so many sacrifices these days. I'm not even talking about port selection - but software, processor, heat. Everyone is trying to be the thinnest and lightest and sacrifice performance in laptops with these 8th gen intel chips it seems.
I love this Lenovo desktop of mine, but hey guess what? I can't extend the warranty beyond the 1 year on the website. Minor quibble but after this kind of money I'm pretty unhappy.
On 29-Apr-2018 1:38 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

not so much. What would you do if you needed to use office, or another high end program, for work or school. In this situation, you need another pc.


On 4/29/2018 2:57 AM, David Moore wrote:

I have had my HP Stream for over four years, and it runs better than it did when I bought it because of Windows 10. Many times, you can close programs and open them back up. Also, it is the tasks you do on a computer that are the most important. I surf the net, read articles, send and receive email, and use many on line services, and play music. That is all I do with that computer.

I should have made that clear that I don’t do heavy stuff, like use MS word, play games and such. I use Jarte as a great word processor, and it is a portable version.

I use many portable programs that run from a USB drive, instead of being installed on the computer. The portable version of Firefox, for example, runs from my flash drive, and works as well as my installed version on my big computer. I use programs like TW blue, A PDF reader, Virtual recorder, Jarte, and many other portable programs that do not get installed onto the computer at all.

So, there are many variables here in terms of what you need to actually install and run on your computer.

Take care, guys!

David Moore

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*From: *g melconian <mailto:gmelconian619@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:36 PM
*To: *win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

Same here, have not had any issues.you get what you pay for.if you pay for cheap trash you will be putting that trash out the door in that  1 to 2 year time frame.but if you spend what is on average about $800 to $1200  you will b getting  a laptop or desktop  pc that will last for years .even have had one that is   a good 9 years old an still running in the office on windows 7 pro as there  are  software packages that  ar legacy  applications for windows 7 pro that  cant be brought over to  windows 10 pro.

*From:* win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:35 AM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

I guess if these cheaper computers with almost no storage, low-end processors and the bare minimum of RAM work for you than that’s great. On the other hand I never had a computer I bought actually give up the ghost prior to when I decided to retire it. I just replaced one PC at my business which has been running pretty much 24 hours a day (we only turn our PC’s off from closing time on Saturday until opening time on Monday, for over 10 years. I bought it in February of 2008 and it was a basic business desktop built by the computer store here in Canada where I buy most of my stuff. At the time it was middle of the road stuff, a full-sized desktop and which cost me about $800 Canadian at the time. Now I buy only mini PC’s for my buisiness because they are so convenient, use relatively little power and are virtually silent. I have two Intel NUC and 2 HP Elite mini PC’s, again, most of them were about $800 Canadian, but that is with either an I5 or I7 CPU, 12 or 16 Gb of RAM and a 120/128 Gb or 240/256 Gb SSD.

Best regards,

Sieghard

*From:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> <win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Kenny Peyattt jr.
*Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 6:12 PM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

Since Microsoft office will take up a lot of space, I wonder if libreoffice will take up a lot of space. I will never pay over 300 dollars either for a computer either. The last time I did that it was a refurbished acer aspire time line, and it had vista on it at the time I bought it. And after 3 years of putting up with vista I decided to wipe the hard drive and install windows 7 pro, and back in 2015 I upgraded it to windows 10, and it worked great until it decided to give up the ghost and die two days after Christmas. I my self like smaller laptops and hp happens to be one of my favorite brands, with acer being the least favorite.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

*From:*win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Moore
*Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 8:30 PM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

I forgot to tell you how cheap it was.

I bought the HP Stream for $179.00

You sure can’t beat that!

I will never pay over $300.00 for any computer!

David Moore

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*From: *Kenny Peyattt jr. <mailto:p.wildcat1234@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 PM
*To: *win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

It was cheap and I am wondering if that is why it only has 32 gigs of storage. They had one for the same price but it had 180 gig SSD.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

*From:*win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 8:14 AM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

Is this laptop particular cheap or why would you consider buying it?

*From:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> <win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *David Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:31 PM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

Yes, it is SSD!

Yes, I use MS office and most services on line, but you are right about using MS Office on the computer. That probably would start tiring this little baby out LOL!

I do as much on line as I can with Google Docs and so on as well.

David Moore

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*From: *Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io <mailto:steven.hicks=nhs.net@groups.io>
*Sent: *Friday, April 27, 2018 2:21 AM
*To: *win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

32gb of storage, if you mean hd or ssd, I would say personally that it is a little low, once you start to load programmes like Microsoft Office etc, you will soon run out of space.

*From:*win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io> [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Kenny Peyattt jr.
*Sent:* 26 April 2018 22:14
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* [win10] thoughts on hp laptops with windows 10:

Hi I am thinking about purchasing a hp laptop with windows 10 and it only comes with 32 gigs of storage. Will that be a problem if windows 10 downloads feature upgrades when they are released? It has a 14 inch screen. And it has four gigs of ram and a intale processor.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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