Re: quick question about Narrator


 

Hi,

This changes the game a lot – do you know the brand and model of this laptop? If pressing Insert causes JAWS to say something else, then I bet somehow the keyboard driver (more towards device firmware) is sending something on top of the code that represents Insert key, perhaps a function key, or it might be something with software.

As for Narrator announcement: try pressing Caps lock+F12 and see if that makes a difference. If it does, another option would be switching to JAWS laptop keyboard layout which will then let you use Caps lock as JAWS modifier key with command assignments optimized for home row.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 3:30 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

Yes, it’s the keyboard that came with this laptop.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February 21, 2021 1:45 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

Madison can answer that one, but I think it’s a laptop’s internal keyboard. It could be a driver/software thing as Joseph has suggested but it actually sounds a little bit like a short, to me. They can cause weird things like this to happen, where pressing a key seems to engage other keys instead.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marci Duty
Sent: February 21, 2021 02:42 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
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What keyboard model is she using?

 

Respectfully,

 

Marci Duty

Email: marci.smiles@...

Phone: (214) 732-5788

Isaiah 30

15  For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, the Holy One of Israel, says:

“By returning to me and resting, you will be saved;

Your strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust.”

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 1:25 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

Madison has been having this problem for months.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marci Duty
Sent: February 21, 2021 02:23 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

Interesting behavior from your keyboard. How many times have you restarted your computer?

I can remember fixing a keyboard challenge like this one by quickly and repeatedly pressing my keyboard’s two alt keys. Press the left alt for one and the right alt for two and the left alt for three. Continue this process until you get to twenty and then check the behavior of your insert key. . This process fixed this challenge for me. A restart of the computer should fix your challenge as well. Repeatedly press the alt keys if your insert key continues to behave strangely after the restart.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Respectfully,     

 

Marci Duty

Email: marci.smiles@...

Phone: (214) 732-5788

Isaiah 30

15  For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, the Holy One of Israel, says:

“By returning to me and resting, you will be saved;

Your strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust.”

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 1:14 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

Oh yes. You have a long history of weird keyboard issue threads.

Did you ever try plugging in an external keyboard to your laptop?

 

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 21, 2021 02:09 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

My insert key, whenever I press it Jaws says alt windows q not insert.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marci Duty
Sent: February 21, 2021 12:47 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

Which keys? If the keys perform a Windows command, they will work no matter which screen reader you are using. If the keys perform specific screen reader commands then they will require the particular screen reader for them to work. The same is true of keyboard commands specific to programs.

For example, the command Windows M is a Windows command. It works in JAWS, NVDA and Narrator and minimizes all open windows and brings the focus to the desktop. Because this is a Windows command, no screen reader is required. A sighted Windows user can use this key combination. Which commands are you asking about?  

 

Marci Duty

Email: marci.smiles@...

Phone: (214) 732-5788

Isaiah 30

15  For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, the Holy One of Israel, says:

“By returning to me and resting, you will be saved;

Your strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust.”

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 12:37 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

I want to see if these keys work properly using a different screen reader.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February 21, 2021 12:33 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

Hey madison.

 

Press some keys?

If I understand correctly – have you tried the JAWS key pass through command to do this?

Jaws key + 3.

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 21, 2021 12:53 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

Okay, all I want to do is press a couple of keys that don’t seem to work with Jaws, can I do this with Narrator?

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 21, 2021 11:46 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 12:12 PM, Kevin wrote:

the current build of windows 10 you start narrator  with keys Ctrl+windows key+enter

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And you can turn it off, if it is on, with that same set of keystrokes, too.

If you've not invoked Narrator before the first time you do you will be presented with a "tour of narrator" dialog, called Narrator Home, which you can simply dismiss, or check the checkbox to never show it again, and then dismiss it.

Other bits about Narrator can be found in Settings, Ease of Access, Narrator Pane.  It's worth taking a look there as you can configure certain things, such as turning off Narrator Home among other things, about its behavior.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

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