Re: quick question about Narrator
Hi, Even when you press “Insert”+F12 while Narrator is active? If I’m understanding what others are saying about your situation, then it is likely that it could be something going on with how Windows is interpreting keyboard input, specifically communication between the keyboard, Bluetooth stack, and how input data is sent to screen readers. Can you tell us the keyboard brand and model you have so others can chime in and/or direct you to a more appropriate place where folks can suggest something? As a way to diagnose the keyboard issue, try using your keyboard with other devices such as another computer or a mobile device, and try with wired keyboards. Cheers, Joseph
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 11:28 AM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] quick question about Narrator
Thanks for the idea Josiph, however it sadly didn’t make any difference.
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi, Sounds like a keyboard software or hardware issue. Does this happen whenever you restart your computer and/or JAWS? One way to test this is:
If you do hear current time and date, then it might be something to do with JAWS. If Narrator says something else, then it is highly likely that something odd is happening with either the keyboard hardware or software (keyboard driver, input method in use, etc.). One definite way to see if it is hardware is performing JAWS commands from a different keyboard, and if JAWS performs what you want, then it might be something with the original keyboard. To clarify what members wrote about keyboard commands: you can’t use screen reader A commands while screen reader B is activated later because the latter will process keyboard commands (think of it as a box where you can only see what’s on top of the lid). It gets messy when two or more screen readers say they want to use a particular key as their modifier. Cheers, Joseph
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
My insert key, whenever I press it Jaws says alt windows q not insert.
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marci Duty
Which keys? If the keys perform a Windows command, they will work no matter which screen reader you are using. If the keys perform specific screen reader commands then they will require the particular screen reader for them to work. The same is true of keyboard commands specific to programs. For example, the command Windows M is a Windows command. It works in JAWS, NVDA and Narrator and minimizes all open windows and brings the focus to the desktop. Because this is a Windows command, no screen reader is required. A sighted Windows user can use this key combination. Which commands are you asking about?
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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
I want to see if these keys work properly using a different screen reader.
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey madison.
Press some keys? If I understand correctly – have you tried the JAWS key pass through command to do this? Jaws key + 3.
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Okay, all I want to do is press a couple of keys that don’t seem to work with Jaws, can I do this with Narrator?
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 12:12 PM, Kevin wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed)
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